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FINANCE & ADMINISTRATION COMMITTEE MINUTES
APRIL 26, 1999
CITY OF KITCHENER
The Finance and Administration Committee met this date, chaired by Councillor J. Ziegler, commencing
at 10:12 a.m., with the following members present: Councillor T. Galloway, Councillor Jake Haalboom,
Councillor Jake Smola, Councillor John Smola, Councillor K. Taylor-Harrison, Councillor C. Weylie and
Councillor M. Yantzi. Mayor C. Zehr entered the meeting shortly after its commencement.
Others present: Ms. P. Houston, Ms. L. Pasternak, Ms. J. Koppeser, Ms. L. MacDonald, Ms. L. Gove and
Messrs. J. Gazzola, S. Gyorffy, J. Hancock, N. Kuntz, J. Shivas, J. Witmer, B. Stanley, T. Clancy, D.
Snow, G. Sosnoski, P. Sinnott, D. Paterson, T. Fox, R. Lebrun and Ms. D. Gilchrist.
1. DELEGATION - SEWER PROBLEMS AT 581 YORK STREET
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Mr. S. Gyorffy, Assistant General Manager, dated
April 21, 1999, on the sewer problem at 581 York Street. The report provided background
information, costs, and the recommendation that the City's contribution for the sewer problems
pertaining to 581 York Street be limited to the clearing cost incurred to date.
Ms. B. Picken-Zeran, property owner, was in attendance to represent the request, made through
Councillor John Smola, with respect to rectifying the problems with her sewer connection.
Councillor John Smola provided some background to the situation.
Ms. Picken-Zeran advised the Committee, with respect to the comments on the staff report, and
outlined her concerns. She noted that the largest portion of this sewer line is on private property
and only 30 feet of it is on City property. She noted that the house was built in 1915 and the York
Street sewer constructed in 1915 but for some reason the house was not connected to the York
Street sewer, and no one in the City really knows why the sewer is this way. She noted that there
is no information available to substantiate that the owner chose to connect to the Union Street
sewer. Ms. Picken-Zeran then explained the situation which arose over the Easter weekend, the
amount of time it took to have the blockage cleared and the comments made to her by the fourth
crew who came out to clear the sewer blockage.
Ms. Picken-Zeran advised the Committee that all she wants is a sewer that works. If her only
choice is the existing sewer and having a City crew come out once a year to clear this sewer line,
she will accept this.
Ms. Picken-Zeran was questioned by Councillor T. Galloway as to whether she knew the sewer
went this way previously, and she advised that three years ago the problem started, which was
when she discovered the situation. The question was raised as to whether a homeowner can find
out this information before purchasing a property and Mr. Gyorffy advised that the information was
marked on City plans.
Councillor J. Ziegler questioned why the costs were so high to connect to the York Street sewer
and Mr. Gyorffy responded that the costs involved in ripping up the street and sidewalks and
replacing them. Councillor J. Ziegler then questioned the delegation as to whether she could
afford to pay the $3,450.00 over ten years. Ms. Picken-Zeran advised that if that was the only
option she would not have any other choice but to afford it. A discussion then took place with
respect to the sewer surcharge.
Councillor Jake Smola questioned where the water service came into the house and Mr. Gyorffy
advised that he did not have an answer but it could be researched. Councillor Jake Smola then
questioned whether the water should be look after at the same time as the sewer.
On a motion by Councillor John Smola,
it was resolved:
"That the City of Kitchener provide a new sewer connection, to York Street, for the
property municipally known as 581 York Street, at a cost of approximately $10,000.00,
including the costs incurred to date for clearing; and further,
That consideration be given to relocating the water service to 581 York Street, at the
same time the sewer connection is relocated to York Street, if determined to be cost
effective to do so."
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2. MANAGER OF EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS - NEW STAFFING POSITION
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Mr. J. Hancock, Fire Chief, dated April 20, 1999,
recommending that approval be granted for the creation and filling of the position of Manager of
Emergency Communications. Mr. J. Hancock was in attendance to introduce the report and he
reviewed the recommendations. He noted that there was no new money being requested for this
position; as it would come out of the existing budget. He then reviewed the background contained
in the report.
Mayor C. Zehr questioned whether this position was discussed at Budget and Mr. J. Gazzola
advised that it was not specifically discussed and results from the dispatch system. Mayor C. Zehr
then questioned whether this increased complement was discussed at Budget. Mr. N. Kuntz
advised that this is not an increase in complement but one allotment that was not filled. The
position that was not filled was at a Captain's level. Councillor J. Ziegler questioned whether the
Captain's position was going to be filled and Mr. Kuntz advised that staff would not be coming back
for permission to fill the Captain's position. Mayor C. Zehr noted the continuing discussions
questioning why the position was being filled now. Mr. J. Hancock advised that the discussions
are continuing and they are approximately two years away from being finalized. He noted that
they would be reporting back to Regional Council in relation to dispatch only. He also noted that
there was support from the study team that this is a necessary position. Mayor C. Zehr then
advised that, if this is an exchange of positions only and not an increase to the complement, that
he would be supportive of the recommendation, provided that is stipulated.
Councillor Jake Smola questioned whether this position has to be a fully qualified fire fighter and, if
this is a 35-hour per week position, and if not what happens during the other hours. Staff briefly
explained the "glitches" which have taken place so far including technical issues.
Mayor C. Zehr put forward a motion to adopt the recommendations contained in Mr. Hancock's
report along with a stipulation that this is a change of positions only and not an increase in the staff
complement.
Councillor T. Galloway reviewed what had happened before the joint communications dispatch
and what has happened since the joint dispatch. There was also a discussion as to which Captain
position will be eliminated and questions about exactly what the new manager will do. Councillor
T. Galloway stated that he did not understand exactly what the new manager will do. Councillor J.
Ziegler suggested deferring the report to the next meeting in order that staff could answer the
questions raised about the job requirements. Mr. J. Hancock stated that did not know what more
he could have brought before the Committee other than including the PDQ with the whole list of
functions.
Councillor Jake Smola suggested looking at this in the context of the big picture. He suggested
having an overview and having a good understanding of the Communications Division as well as
prevention and suppression. He questioned whether it would possible to have this information
including staffing levels and shifts. Mr. J. Hancock advised that he could add more detailed
information to the report requested by Councillor John Smola. Councillor John Smola then stated
that if the Committee was going to deal with the whole Fire Department staffing, that a special
meeting would be required. A discussion then took place with as to whether the Committee was
micromanaging and whether the current request was going to affect the report to Councillor John
Smola.
Mr. J. Gazzola advised that he had thought that staff had carefully reviewed the situation and this
is going to take a full-time person. The matter had been considered by Management Committee,
resulting in this report.
Councillor K. Taylor-Harrison questioned whether the Committee could vote on Mayor C. Zehr's
motion today. Councillor Jake Smola stated that Council should have a good understanding of the
service the City provides to the community. He felt that the Department should have an
opportunity to come forward and show what they do. Mayor C. Zehr stated that he wanted his
motion dealt with.
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2. MANAGER OF EMERGENCY COMMUNICATIONS - NEW STAFFING POSITION - CONT'D
On a motion by Mayor C. Zehr,
it was resolved:
"That the Fire Department be permitted to create and fill the position of "Manager of
Emergency Communications" with the position being designated non-union, at Job
Grade 20; with the funding to come from the Fire Department's Operating Budget; and
further,
That the creation and filling of the position of "Manager of Emergency Communications"
within the Fire Department is a change of positions only and not an increase in staff
complement."
Dealing with the other report requested by Councillor John Smola, Mr. N. Kuntz advised that he
had been waiting for a resolution of Council, as staff do not know all that they are expected to deal
with.
Councillor John Smola noted that the City is going from seven stations down to six. He stated that
there are 1-1/2 crews at Guelph Street and that could be a problem. He questioned the six new
locations and how they will operate and can 1-1/2 crews handle the work. He questioned what
was going to happen when the six new stations open.
After a discussion in this regard it was generally agreed that a special meeting of the Finance and
Administration Committee will be held on June 21, 1999, from 4:00 to 6:00 p.m., to consider a
comprehensive review of the Fire Department to include Suppression, Prevention and
Communications Divisions.
3. K-W WOMEN'S BOWLING ASSOCIATION - REQUEST FOR FUNDRAISING BARBEQUE.
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Ms. J. Koppeser, Manager of Licensing, dated April
22, 1999, with respect to a request received from the Kitchener-Waterloo Women's Bowling
Association to operate a Hot Dog cart during their yard sale on June 5, 1999, at 385 Frederick
Street, Kitchener. Ms. Koppeser noted that the money raised will be used to promote the game of
bowling.
On a motion by Councillor T. Galloway,
it was resolved:
"That the Kitchener-Waterloo Women's Bowling Association be granted permission to
operate a Hot Dog cart on June 5, 1999, at 385 Frederick Street, Kitchener, provided
the necessary licence with Heath and Fire approval is obtained; and further,
That the reduced fee of $10.00 be applicable."
4. MULTICULTURAL FESTIVAL - REQUEST TO ERECT BEER TENT IN VICTORIA PARK
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Ms. J. Koppeser, Manager of Licensing, dated April
22, 1999, with respect to a request received from the K W Multicultural Centre requesting
Council's permission to erect a beer tent in Victoria Park during the 1999 Multicultural Festival.
The report noted that, although a licence is not required to erect a tent, a building permit is
required and the applicant requires Council approval to locate a beer tent on City property.
On a motion by Councillor T. Galloway,
it was resolved:
"That the K W Multicultural Centre be granted permission to erect a beer tent in Victoria
Park during the Multicultural Festival 1999, on June 26 & 27, 1999, providing the
necessary building permit is obtained."
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5. LEGAL DEPARTMENT FEES
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Mr. J. Shivas, City Solicitor, dated April 21, 1999,
recommending a schedule of new legal fees and increases to existing fees. The report included
background information in this regard and a comprehensive schedule of proposed fees. Mr.
Shivas was in attendance to represent the report and reviewed the background. He noted that the
issue of legal fees was raised at Budget last year and was deferred to allow for notice to the
public. Mr. Shivas then reviewed the notice process and advised that only one response was
received. He also noted that the proposed fees are in keeping with those of other municipalities.
Councillor T. Galloway noted that his major concern is Committee of Adjustment and whether or
not a property owner should be hit with these additional fees. Mr. Shivas responded that these
agreements are imposed by the Committee of Adjustment and are usually related to severances.
Councillor T. Galloway then raised the issue of encroachment agreements and Mr. Shivas noted
that this would be the first and only fee. Councillor Galloway stated that he had some concern
about minor encroachments noting that these people are maintaining the land.
Councillor J. Ziegler felt that this was a silo approach and questioned what happened to one- stop
shopping. He stated that any time we are looking at an increase in fees we have to look at the
overall increase in fees required of a person going through the process. He felt that the schedule
of fees did not give a comprehensive picture. Mr. Shivas stated that the research done by the
Legal Department was for legal fees and not planning fees. Councillor J. Ziegler questioned how
we sit in the totality of fees compared with other municipalities. Mayor C. Zehr stated that he
wanted the City to be competitive and fair with other municipalities. He suggested that the
Committee needed further information. A brief discussion then took place with respect to how
other municipalities compare in all their fees. Mr. J. Shivas noted that other municipalities do also
have planning application fees. Mr. Shivas also expressed his concern about any appearance
that the City Legal Department is acting for the developers. He stated that he was concerned that
taking fees from developers makes it look like the Legal Department works for them. The Legal
Department should be seen to working for the Corporation and for the good of citizens at large.
Councillor Jake Smola questioned if the City had to go outside for legal services what the costs
would be. Mr. Shivas responded that the fees would be based on cost recovery and would be
much higher. Councillor Jake Smola then moved the recommendation contained in Mr. Shivas'
report. He applauded Mr. Shivas for coming forward with the report.
Councillor T. Galloway stated that he generally agreed with the motion but he still had a problem
with encroachment agreements and questioned whether they would apply to residents who
maintain City property. Mr. Shivas responded that it is intended that it would apply and asked
Councillor Galloway to keep in mind that these people have taken land away from the public
domain. Ms. L. MacDonald advised that the encroachment agreements primarily deal with the
encroachment of buildings, patios and porches where the property owner specifically gains a
benefit. She noted that the City is not gaining a benefit. A discussion then took place of the
various types of encroachment on City property. Councillor J. Ziegler suggested an amendment to
Councillor Jake Smola's motion to require the payment of fees for encroachments for structures
only which was accepted by Councillor Jake Smola.
On a motion by Councillor Jake Smola,
it was resolved:
"That the fees, as set out in Schedule "A" to the April 21, 1999 report of the City
Solicitor, for the preparation and processing of agreements and other documentation by
the City's Legal Department, be approved; save and except for the fee proposed for
encroachment agreements which shall only apply when structures encroach on City
property."
6. Y2K STAFFING
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Ms. P. Houston, Chief Financial Officer and City
Treasurer, dated April 14, 1999, recommending a Y2K staffing policy for the period December
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Y2K STAFFING - CONT'D
27, 1999 to January 16, 2000. Ms. P. Houston introduced the report and explained that she
wanted to put these staff groups on notice and circulate the policy to the City's Unions.
On a motion by Councillor Jake Smola,
it was resolved:
"That the following work groups are required to be duty or on standby during the period
December 27, 1999 to January 16, 2000; with no vacations being scheduled during this
time period for these work groups until all Y2K contingency plans are complete and
approved and the necessary staffing requirements scheduled:
Group Purpose
Y2K Interdepartmental Team On standby, to identify and prioritize Departmental
tasks
Emergency Control Group On standby, to invoke Emergency Plan, if required
Utilities Regular standby staffing to respond to any
operational problems
Information Services
Department Systems
Administrators
Fire
Facilities Management and
Security
Public Works
Approximately seven staff will be scheduled to work
January 1 and 2 to check all servers and systems
at all sites. Additional staff resources must be on
standby to fix problems encountered
On standby, to fix problems encountered
Extra key staffing have been identified
standby (i.e. mechanics, Fire Chief, etc.)
to be on
To check Building controls and fix problems, if
necessary
Regular standby staffing, to handle sewage
pumping station power problems, if required"
7. 1999 KITCHENER OPEN EARS FESTIVAL OF MUSIC & SOUND - AGREEMENTS FOR USE
OF GOUDIES BUILDING
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Ms. L. Gove, Supervisor, Arts, Culture, Special
Events dated April 21, 1999, recommending the entering into of certain agreements between the
City of Kitchener and the Kitchener-Waterloo Symphony Inc. with respect to use of the Goudies
Building for the 1999 Kitchener Open Ears Festival of Music & Sound.
Councillor K. Taylor-Harrison put forward the recommendations contained in the staff report.
Ms. L. MacDonald raised the issue of the temporary fire alarm for the areas being occupied. Mr. T.
Clancy advised the Committee that the cost would be approximately $2,500.00. He noted that
there was one large open room off King Street and that originally the Fire Inspector had thought
that it would be fine without one. Mr. Clancy noted that this money is not in the Parks and
Recreation Department Budget and the Symphony could not pay.
Ms. L. MacDonald advised that this festival will take place for four days from 7:00 until 11:00 and
questioned how volunteers could possibly monitor the building. She noted that children will be
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7. 1999 KITCHENER OPEN EARS FESTIVAL OF MUSIC & SOUND - AGREEMENTS FOR USE
OF GOUDIES BUILDING - CONT'D
coming into the building including invitations given to schools.
Ms. L. Gove explained what had happened as St. Jerome's last year.
Councillor J. Ziegler noted that, from a liability point of view, the temporary fire alarm should be
installed. Mr. J. Witmer noted that anytime anyone has wanted to use this building, the City has
consistently required a temporary alarm. He noted that this is an assembly occupancy and it is
required.
Councillor Jake Smola stated that he did not think the City had any option.
Councillor John Smola questioned whether the City would be doing anything in there in the future,
whether staff had any other plans for use of the building. Ms. L. Gove stated that she was not
aware of any other use of the building but use of the green space beside the building would be
made.
Councillor T. Galloway questioned Ms. Gove as to what the hardship would be. Ms. Gove advised
that the festival would cost between $8,000.00 to - $9,500.00 with the City providing $17,000.00.
She noted that the figure of $2,500.00 has not been discussed with the Symphony.
Councillor T. Galloway questioned Mr. J. Witmer as to whether City Works would benefit from this.
He suggested that the alarm could be left in after the festival if we expect to have other activities
in there. He noted that since the City is imposing this requirement it should contribute $1,000.00
to this and it should be left in place to benefit City Works.
Councillor K. Taylor-Harrison agreed to this amendment to her motion and another amendment
put forward by Councillor Jake Smola, that the Facilities Management Division make the
arrangements for this temporary fire alarm system.
On a motion by Councillor K. Taylor-Harrison,
it was resolved:
"That the Kitchener-Waterloo Symphony Orchestra Inc. (the "symphony") be permitted
to use a portion of the Goudies Building during the 1999 Kitchener Open Ears Festival
of Music & Sound (the "festival") provided it complies with the Fire Code, Building
Code, and Ontario Hydro requirements and obtains a public hall licence; and,
That the Mayor and Clerk be authorized to sign an agreement, prepared by and
satisfactory to the City Solicitor, with the "symphony" for preparation of the Goudies
Building for the "festival"; and,
That the Mayor and Clerk be authorized to sign an agreement, prepared by and
satisfactory to the City Solicitor with the "symphony" for the use of the Goudies Building
during the "festival"; and,
That a temporary fire alarm shall be installed in the Goudies Building prior to it being
used for the 1999 Kitchener Open Ears Festival of Music & Sound, with the City to
contribute $1,000.00 towards the cost of its purchase and installation, to be arranged
through the Facilities Management Division, with the proponents to pay the balance;
and further,
That the temporary fire alarm remain in the Goudies Building until the proposed
purchasers take possession of the building."
DOWNTOWN FACADE IMPROVEMENT LOAD PROGRAM - REVISIONS & OVERVIEW
The Committee was in receipt of Department of Business and Planning Services staff report BPS
#99/56 dated April 6, 1999, with respect to recommended revisions and an overview of the
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DOWNTOWN FA(~ADE IMPROVEMENT LOAD PROGRAM REVISIONS & OVERVIEW -
CONT'D
Downtown Fagade/Interior Loan Program. Mr. W. Pearce was in attendance to represent the
report and showed slides of buildings which have benefited from this program. Mr. Pearce then
reviewed the recommendations contained in the staff report. He noted that a fixed interest rate for
a fixed term is being recommended with the grant portion being reduced, and earned over the
fixed term. He noted that they are expecting activity levels to remain the same. Councillor Jake
Smola questioned whether requests have been received from outside the boundaries and Mr.
Pearce advised that they have been received. He questioned whether the City makes sure the
building owner is looking after the property and Mr. Pearce advised that this can be worked at
through the Property Standards By-law.
A discussion then took place with respect to various aspects of the program including signage and
the rating system.
On a motion by Councillor K. Taylor-Harrison,
it was resolved:
"That the following changes to the Downtown Fagade/Interior Loan Program take place
to ensure viability:
a) Fixed interest rate of 8% to be review annually;
b) Fixed term of five years;
c) Grant portion of 15% of the loan;
d)
The grant portion to be forgivable over the five-year term. Early repayment
means less grant.
e) The program is to be reviewed every three years."
COMMUNICATIONS PLAN - PUBLIC MEETING ON REGIONALIZATION/RATIONALIZATION
OF SERVICES
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Mr. P. Sinnott, Communications Director, dated
April 23, 1999, providing a comprehensive communications plan, including activities and costs,
relating to the public meeting, to be held on May 19, 1999 with respect to
regionalization/rationalization of municipal services. Mr. P. Sinnott was in attendance to represent
the report and answer any questions the Committee might have in this regard.
Mayor C. Zehr felt that the cost of $43,000.00 was too high. Various options were then discussed
including having Rogers cover the forum as a special event with a phone-in component. Other
options including a reduced number of flyers, having the materials printed internally and reducing
the number of advertisements was also discussed. Several other members of the Committee felt
that the costs were too high.
Councillor John Smola stated that this issue involves the future of this community and it is the
biggest issue that this Council is ever going to deal with. He noted that everyone wants
participation from the community and questioned why this Committee would complain about the
cost.
A discussion then took place with respect to the polling recommended in the plan and the question
was raised as to why we would want to survey all the Region. Councillor Ziegler suggested aiming
more for Kitchener residents.
Mayor C. Zehr then suggested dealing with the recommendation in two parts and separating
advertising from the public opinion poll. He suggested that we should be concentrating on
advertising. He also stated that he liked the idea of the neighbourhood newsletters. Mayor Zehr
then stated that he agreed with Councillor John Smola in the value of the plan, stating that this
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was a significant beginning to the process. He stated that he wanted to make sure the public
was as informed as possible. Mayor Zehr then suggested a motion to approve an expenditure of
$12,000.00 for overall advertising for this event and that staff work within this budget to find a
variety of means of advertising.
Mr. P. Sinnott advised that he was not sure that amount of money would do the job. He pointed
out that these newsletters are weekly and they may allow time for only one newsletter. Councillor
John Smola stated that he did not agree with the motion. Councillor Jake Smola stated that he
was not sure that $12,000.00 was enough. He suggested that a motion to approve the proposed
budget for advertising be adopted and leave the opportunity open for staff to consider community
newspapers. He felt that if the City wanted to have good public consultation, the suggested
amendment was a poor approach. He put forward an amendment that the advertising dollars for
this event be the amount recommended in Mr. Sinnott's report. Councillor J. Haalboom spoke in
support of the amendment suggesting that this information should be presented in as many ways
as possible.
The question was raised as to where the funds would come from and Ms. P. Houston advised that
it would have to be an over-expenditure to the Operating Budget.
On a motion by Mayor C. Zehr,
it was resolved:
"That the Advertising component only of the communications plan, prepared by Mr. P.
Sinnott, dated April 23, 1999, with respect to the public meeting on reform initiatives
involving regionalization/rationalization of municipal services, scheduled for May 19,
1999, be approved including all activities and expenditures contained therein; and
further,
That the communications plan also include the
newsletters/newspapers for advertising this public meeting."
use of community
The Committee then continued to discuss the option of the public opinion poll as contained in Mr.
Sinnott's report. The question was raised as the date for this poll and Mr. Sinnott responded that
we would have to start right away and do it as quickly as possible.
Councillor J. Ziegler advised that he was concerned with the project objective and he did not like
the questions, as they do not reflect the Kitchener point of view. Mr. Sinnott responded that if the
Committee just wants a Kitchener opinion, the sample size could be reduced and therefore the
costs. Councillor John Smola stated that he wanted a poll after the May 19th meeting.
Councillor Jake Smola advised that he thought there was a possibility for a referendum. He felt
that it could be an opportunity for a Region wide referendum on the big Regional issues. He felt
that we could seek something which may be binding down the road. Mayor C. Zehr noted that
referendums have been contemplated.
Due to timing, the Committee recessed at 12:40 p.m. and re-convened at 5:00 p.m.
CITY OF KITCHENER CLEAN AIR PROGRAM
The Committee was receipt of Department of Business and Planning Services staff report BPS
#98/63, dated April 21, 1999, with respect to the City of Kitchener Clean Air Plan. Mr. B. Stanley
was in attendance to represent the report. He noted the Smog Alert Plan advising that there were
smog days in May last year. He noted that staff are reasonably confident that if the number of
smog days does not exceed six there would not be an impact on service level. If the number of
smog days was three times that many, it might have an affect on curtailing programs. He noted
that staff are reasonably happy with what is planned for smog alert days.
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11.
CITY OF KITCHENER CLEAN AIR PROGRAM - CONT'D
Mr. Stanley advised that the long-term strategies contained in the plan are new and they are
looking forward to preparing a communications plan with Mr. Sinnott. He noted that a plan
would be put together and taken back to the Environmental Committee. Mr. Stanley advised that
the cost associated with the plan could come out of the Capital Budget and will be recommended
by the Environmental Committee.
On a motion by Councillor J. Haalboom,
it was resolved:
"That Council adopt the City of Kitchener Clean Air Plan, as presented to the Finance
and Administration Committee on April 26, 1999."
Councillor Jake Smola thanked staff and the Environmental Working Group for all the work
involved in this plan. He advised that this would be dealt with more at the Council meeting next
Monday night.
APPEAL OF INVOICES FOR FLYER/POSTER REMOVAL - WALPER PUB
It was noted that Mr. A. Attwooll of the Walper Pub had registered as a delegation but was not in
attendance, nor was he in attendance earlier in the meeting.
Councillor J. Ziegler reflected on the fees noted in the invoices, specifically the administrative fee.
Mayor C. Zehr questioned whether any others had been charge and what had happened with
them. Mr. J. Witmer explained the purpose of the administration fee. Councillor Jake Smola
advised that he had no concerns with the charges in the invoices. He felt that they were labour
intensive for City staff. He put forward a motion of no action on the request of Mr. Attwooll.
Councillor Jake Smola advised that he had serious concerns and reflected on a time when he was
a member of Heritage Kitchener and the signage in the windows at Reggies was a concern. He
felt that the owner had disregarded the rules and had done this with intent because of a loss of
revenue.
Mayor C. Zehr questioned whether there were others who have not paid and how many have been
charged. Mr. Witmer advised that many of these had been issued in the downtown, noting that
they are not popular but they have the desired effect to correct the situation.
Councillor K. Taylor-Harrison referred to the K-W Collective and Mr. Witmer advised that they
have been given an opportunity to comply and charges are the last result. A discussion then took
place with regards to Mr. Attwooll's situation, referring to the letter in the agenda. Councillor T.
Galloway suggested that the offender needs to be charged an appropriate amount and he felt that
the administrative fee should be waived. Councillor K. Taylor-Harrison advised that she would be
concerned about doing that as the City would be inundated by others. She noted that the fees
were set up for a purpose and she was fully prepared to go forward.
Councillor M. Yantzi questioned why the Committee was dealing with matter when the delegation
was not in attendance. Councillor Jake Smola suggested the motion of no action be taken on the
request and that the by-law is there for a specific reason. A discussion took place as to whether
the matter should be dealt with today or deferred for two weeks to the next Finance and
Administration Committee meeting.
Mayor C. Zehr put forward a motion to have the matter referred to the May 10, 1999 Finance and
Administration Committee meeting which was voted on and lost.
On a motion by Councillor Jake Smola,
it was resolved:
"That no action be taken on the request of Mr. A. Attwooll for the City to waive Invoice
#0122745, issued February 17, 1999 and Invoice #0123272, issued March 12, 1999,
relating to the costs of flyer/poster removal."
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11. APPEAL OF INVOICES FOR FLYER/POSTER REMOVAL - WALPER PUB- CON'TD
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Staff was advised to inform Mr. Attwooll that this matter would be considered at the Council
meeting of Monday May 3, 1999.
COMMUNICATIONS PLAN
The Committee again referred to the Communications Plan prepared by Mr. P. Sinnott, dated April
23, 1999, specifically with reference to the public opinion poll. After a brief discussion, a further
staff report was requested for the May 10th Finance and Administration Committee meeting.
On a motion by Councillor John Smola,
it was resolved:
"That the proposal to conduct a public opinion poll, outlined in the Communication Plan
for the public meeting on reform initiatives involving regionalization/rationalization of
municipal services, prepared by Mr. P. Sinnott, dated April 23, 1999, be deferred and
referred to the Finance and Administration Committee meeting scheduled for May 10,
1999; at which time a further report fully documenting the proposal, including survey
questions, possible options and costs be presented for consideration."
MOBILE SIGNS - SHARED USE
The Committee was in receipt of a memorandum from Councillor J. Ziegler, dated April 20, 1999,
with respect to a suggestion made to him by one of his constituents who rents in a small plaza,
with respect to sharing the use of mobile signs with his co-tenants. Councillor J. Ziegler reviewed
his memorandum.
Mr. J. Witmer advised that this is already possible but is discouraged. He noted that a tenant
could rent half a sign for a maximum of six months. Councillor J. Ziegler advised that they would
be in support of half a sign but they do not want to be limited to six months. Councillor Ziegler
suggested referring this matter to staff. Councillor J. Haalboom referred to her suggestion at the
previous Council meeting where she was advised that it would be too much work for staff.
Councillor Yantzi suggested that referring all of these sign matters to staff for a report to the
Planning and Economic Development Committee. Mayor C. Zehr felt that it was a substantial
amount of work which would involve a lengthy report and a lengthy study. He suggested a report
from staff simply outlining the issues before the Sign By-law is opened up. It was suggested that
Planning staff report to this Committee on what the issues would be and what the process would
be.
Mr. B. Stanley advised that these issues compound each other. He noted that there is a proposed
new sign by-law for the downtown which would be coming forward soon and the urban design
guidelines. Councillor Yantzi advised that he also wished to have information from staff on the
options in the existing by-law for enforcement.
The discussion then returned to mobile signs with respect to whether they are looked at as
temporary or have they become permanent. Concerns were raised about the proliferation of
mobile signs and whether they are being promoted instead of permanent signs.
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On a motion by Councillor M. Yantzi,
it was resolved:
"That staff of the Department of Business and Planning Services prepare a report for
Planning and Economic Development Committee on the process involved in reviewing
and amending the Sign By-law to deal with the following issues:
a) the proliferation of signs,
b) the safety of roof signs,
c)
shared use of mobile signs for a longer period than the Sign By-law currently
allows; and further,
That staff advise of the options in the existing sign by-law for enforcement."
UPDATES - PREPARING FOR THE YEAR 2000
Mr. J. Gazzola was requested to have Ms. P. Houston make this presentation at Council next
Monday night and it was suggested by Councillor T. Galloway that others, such as Hydro, be
invited to make a brief presentation in this regard.
ADJOURNMENT
On motion, the meeting adjourned at 5:45 p.m.
D. H. GILCHRIST
COMMITTEE ADMINISTRATOR