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PUBLIC WORKS & TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MINUTES
MAY 29, 1995
CITY OF KITCHENER
The Public Works and Transportation Committee met this date under the Chairmanship of Councillor
John Smola, with all members present. Councillor K. Redman, Councillor G. Lorentz and J. Ziegler were
in attendance for part of the meeting.
Others Present:
Councillor T. Galloway, Councillor M. Yantzi, Ms. V. Gibaut and Messrs. J.
McBride, D. Snow, E. Kovacs, T. McKay, J. Shivas, S. Gyorffy, T. McCabe, J.
Gazzola, T. Clancy and L.F. Parkhouse.
This meeting of the Public Works and Transportation Committee commenced at 9:05 a.m.
1.Breithaupt Street Reconstruction
The Committee was advised that the total reconstruction of Breithaupt Street, from King Street to
Waterloo Street, has now gone out to tender with the Iow bid received being in the amount of
$641,299.79. This amount exceeds the approved budget by nearly $205,000.00.
Mr. E. Kovacs referred to his report and suggested that the following factors may have contributed to the
increase in price:
-soil investigations which have indicated that de-watering will be necessary;
-numerous underground services to the Perstorp Plant which have created complications not taken into
account as part of the pre-engineering investigations;
-temporary warehousing facilities for Perstorp during the construction period;
-only 2 bidders which may be a reflection of the large amount of heavy construction which is taking place
at this time.
It was suggested to the Committee that this project be deferred to 1996 in the hope that a better price
would be obtained at that time.
Councillor John Smola indicated that he had no objection to the recommendation as presented but
suggested that all affected area residents should be advised of the delay and the reasons for it.
On motion by Councillor C. Weylie -
it was resolved:
"That the reconstruction of Breithaupt Street, from King Street to Waterloo Street, be deferred to 1996
and additional funds to undertake this project be appropriated through the capital budget
process for 1996."
2.Sanitary Servicing Scheme - Pioneer Tower West
This item, which deals with the Sanitary Servicing Scheme for the Pioneer Tower West Community and
the associated Environmental Assessment Study, was originally considered by the Public Works
and Transportation Committee on May 15, 1995. At that time, the following resolution was adopted:
"That approval of the preferred sanitary servicing scheme for the Pioneer Tower West Community be
deferred and referred to the public meeting which will be held as part of the planning process
for this area."
When this resolution was considered by City Council, it was agreed that the matter would be referred
back to the Public Works and Transportation Committee for further consideration.
Mr. Paul Britton appeared before the Committee indicating his support for the staff recommendation as
contained in a report dated May 10, 1995. In this regard, Mr. Britton pointed out that the
Environmental Assessment Study does not deal with densities for the Pioneer Tower West
Community but rather deals with how this area will be serviced. The Environmental Assessment
Study will not predetermine planning issues.
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2.Sanitary Servicinq Scheme - Pioneer Tower West (Cont'd)
Mr. Britton also advised the Committee that there are other processes which must be undertaken,
however, these cannot proceed until the recommendation contained in the staff report has been
adopted. Mr. Britton pointed out that easements for the forcemain could take 7 to 8 months to
finalize, however, this work cannot proceed without the approval of the staff recommendation.
Councillors K. Redman and G. Lorentz entered the meeting at this time.
The
Committee was advised that hydrography issues have been raised, however, these will be
considered as part of the subdivision process. In this regard, Mr. Britton advised the Committee
that, hopefully, all property owners will participate in any hydrographic study.
When questioned by Councillor M. Wagner, Mr. Britton suggested that the general concern was that the
Environmental Assessment Study would predetermine the densities for this area. It was suggested
that this is clearly not the case. The recommendation, as presented at this time, deals strictly with
the servicing of the area and not the planning issues.
When questioned by the Committee, Mr. T. McCabe advised that originally it was his recommen-dation
that the Environmental Assessment Study be referred to the public meeting which would be held to
consider the planning issues. When making that recommendation, Mr. McCabe advised that he
was not aware of the necessity to undertake land exchanges and obtain easements for the
forcemain. Mr. McCabe indicated his support for the staff recommendation at this time.
Councillor J. Ziegler entered the meeting at this time.
Councillor T. Galloway noted that the Official Plan allows for the development of the lands in the Pioneer
Tower Area and that the area can be serviced with municipal services. The area residents are
concerned that any activities may have an adverse effect on their existing wells and interruptions
have occurred at various times in the past. It was the view of Councillor Galloway that both the
deep and shallow aquifers must be considered to ensure that there continues to be an adequate
supply of quality well water in this area.
Following further discussion and on motion by Councillor C. Weylie -
it was resolved:
"That Council approve the preferred Sanitary Servicing Scheme for the Pioneer Tower West Community,
as presented at the public open house on April 25, 1995, and further,
That the Schedule 'B' Class Environmental Assessment Study Report for the project be filed with the City
Clerk for the mandatory 30 day public review period."
3. DOPWR 95-17 - Market Square Garaqe Repairs
Mr. J. McBride appeared before the Committee and reminded them of a report which was presented in
March of 1995 which outlined various repair options for the Market Square Parking Garage. Any
action was deferred at that time so that the future of the Farmers' Market could be considered by the
Downtown Task Force. Direction has now been given that this matter be considered at this meeting
of the Public Works and Transportation Committee.
Mr. McBride then reviewed the repairs which should be undertaken to the parking garage regardless of
whether or not any action is taken in regard to Levels 4B, 5B and 6B. These works include repairs
to the Upper Market Level and the entrance and exit ramps to the garage, repairs to the helix and
various repairs to the lower levels of the parking garage.
Mr. McBride then provided the Committee with the options which can be considered regarding the Upper
Levels of the Market Parking Garage. The first level would see the repair of the upper 3 levels at a
cost of approximately $717,000.00. The second option would be to completely replace Levels 4B,
5B and 6B at a cost of approximately 1.2 million dollars. It was noted by Mr. McBride that it is this
option which is supported by staff. This option would provide a solution to
3. DOPWR 95-17 - Market Square Garaqe Repairs (Cont'd)
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the existing problems for approximately 20 years, provided that necessary repairs were undertaken as
required.
The third option would see Levels 4B, 5B and 6B removed in 5 years but not replaced. This option would
have a cost of approximately $547,000.00. Option 4 would be the same as Option 3, except that
the 3 levels would be removed immediately.
The final option presented to the Committee was the demolition and reconstruction of the entire garage
facility at a cost of approximately 9.2 million dollars.
The Committee was advised that in order to arrive at recommendations it was necessary to make certain
assumptions. These assumptions are as follows:
-the Farmers' Market would remain in its present location;
-the Market Square Shopping Centre and surrounding offices would remain;
-that there would be minimal disruption to this portion of the Downtown area;
-that Duke Street between Frederick Street and Scott Street would remain as a one-way street.
When questioned by the Committee, Mr. McBride advised that there are certain safety and aesthetic
improvements which should take place in the very near future. These improvements include
stairwell improvements, painting and an emergency communication system. These improvements
would have a cost of approximately $115,000.00 and would, hopefully, be undertaken during 1995.
Councillor J. Ziegler suggested that, in his opinion, there are other options which have not been
considered. One option would be to demolish the entire structure, including the Farmers' Market,
with no reconstruction or discuss with Cambridge Leaseholds the possibility of them taking over the
operation of the parking garage. In the view of Councillor Ziegler, the track record of the Market
Garage is such that additional monies should not be spent to upgrade any part of it. Councillor
Ziegler expressed concern that, if the upper levels are repaired and/or replaced, it is possible that
the lower levels may deteroriate creating a new set of problems.
Councillor G. Lorentz advised that it is his recollection that it would cost approximately $350,000.00 to
demolish the entire structure and not rebuild it. Councillor Lorentz suggested, however, that
consideration must be given to the future of all partners involved in Market Square and if the major
tenants are not going to remain at this location then it would seem foolish to repair the existing
parking structure.
Councillor K. Redman suggested that any discussions with Cambridge Leaseholds should make it clear
that the City would prefer if they and their tenants would remain in this location. Councillor Redman
was of the view that the Market Parking Garage must continue to operate and, accordingly, any
repairs required to spruce it up and keep it safe must be undertaken. Councillor B. Vrbanovic
concurred with these comments.
His Worship Mayor R. Christy advised that ongoing discussions are being held with Cambridge
Leaseholds and it is apparent that they are watching to determine what action the City is going take
to upgrade the parking structure. The decision taken by the City will likely have an affect on the
future plans of Cambridge Leaseholds.
Mayor Christy suggested to the Committee that this parking garage is a major factor in the continued long
term operation of Eaton's and the rest of the shopping centre.
Mr. T. McKay advised the Committee that this matter has been discussed by Management Committee on
several occasions and it must be assumed that Market Square and the Office
3. DOPWR 95-17 - Market Square Garaqe Repairs (Cont'd)
Tower at 22 Frederick Street are going to continue to exist for a number of years. This being the case,
the parking garage will be required. It was further noted that the parking garage and the Farmers'
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Market are integrated structures and, while there have been discussions about moving the Market,
there would appear to be little justification to develop a freestanding facility to operate as a Market,
8 hours per week.
The Committee was reminded that what they have in front of them now is the first in a number of steps
which would have to be taken before any major work was undertaken. A final decision to replace
the upper 3 floors of the parking garage would not be made until after the matter has been
discussed during the Capital Budget process and the tenders have, in fact, been called and a
contract awarded.
Councillor J. Ziegler suggested that facilities, such as the King Centre, be considered for a new Market
location. It was the view of Councillor Ziegler that it may be more cost efficient to buy an existing
facility than repair the existing parking garage. Councillor Ziegler did suggest, however, that he
would support interim repairs so that part of the Market Garage presently being utilized can be used
in a safe manner.
Councillor G. Lorentz was of the opinion that there were too many unknowns at this time to make a final
decision regarding the Market Garage. He did, however, express the opinion that it was unlikely
that the east end of the core would completely collapse if this garage were removed.
Councillor Lorentz indicated that he would like information indicating how long the major tenant intends to
stay at Market Square and a final decision made indicating what will be done with the Farmers'
Market.
Councillor Jake Smola questioned how much has been spent on the Market Parking Garage since it was
opened. It was indicated that repairs have amounted to approximately 2.4 million dollars. It was
further noted that the City spent approximately $4,000,000.00 on debenture and interest charges
respecting this facility.
Councillor Jake Smola pointed out that staff are of the opinion that the existing building is structurally
sound providing that needed repairs are undertaken. He further pointed out that approximately 2.4
million dollars have already been spent on repairs and questioned whether more money should be
spent on this facility.
Councillor M. Wagner indicated support for a short term program which would see the work completed so
that the parking garage can continue to operate as it is at the present time. Councillor Wagner
indicated that he was not prepared to approve a long term commitment to the continuation of a
parking garage in this location.
Councillor T. Galloway suggested that the decision facing Council at this time is important, not only to
Cambridge Leaseholds, but also to investors and potential investors in the Downtown. Many years
ago the City undertook a commitment to provide parking in the Downtown area and the City may be
viewed as reneging on this commitment if the existing facility were removed and not replaced.
When questioned by the Committee, Mr. J. McBride advised that elevator improvements were approved
as part of the 1995 budget process and these works will go ahead.
In reply to questioning by Councillor K. Redman, Mr. D. Snow pointed out that major structural changes
would be required to the existing garage to accommodate two-way traffic on Duke Street between
Frederick Street and Scott Street.
Mayor R. Christy suggested that deterioration and renewal are a fact of life and the public image of the
City of Kitchener may be dependent on how Council finally decides to deal with the Market Parking
Garage. Repairs are required and the actions taken by Council in this regard may have an affect on
the long term plans of both Cambridge Leaseholds and Eaton's. If action is not taken the end result
could be the loss of tax revenue from this location. Mayor Christy pointed
3. DOPWR 95-17 - Market Square Garaqe Repairs (Cont'd)
out that he is not happy about the need to undertake major repairs to this facility but expressed the
opinion that the City must do so to ensure that Market Square remains and tax revenues are not
lost.
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His Worship Mayor R. Christy indicated that he was prepared to introduce a motion supporting the
recommendations as contained in the staff report.
Councillor M. Wagner advised that he would support the motion of Mayor Christy as long as it does not
imply that the Farmers' Market will remain in its present location in the future.
Councillor J. Ziegler was of the opinion that the recommendation dealing with a repair strategy for Levels
4B, 5B and 6B should only be approved in principle and should contain a condition that Cambridge
Leaseholds would be contacted to obtain from them a commitment regarding their long range plans
for the Market Square Shopping Centre. In this regard, Mayor Christy pointed out that Cambridge
Leaseholds looks after the best interests of the City by looking after themselves.
The following motion was introduced by His Worship Mayor R. Christy -
"That repair strategy D-2, which includes the removal and replacement of Levels 4B, 5B and 6B in the
Market Square Garage as outlined in DOPWR 95-9 dated March 1, 1995, be adopted with the
work to commence in the 1996 construction season, and further,
That improvements previously approved as part of the budget process, as well as the completion of the
painting of all decks, the improvements to the stairwells and the installation of emergency
alarms, be completed in 1995, and further,
That Morrison Hershfield be contracted to perform a cursory inspection of Levels 4B, 5B and 6B in the fall
of this year to ensure their structural integrity over the upcoming winter, and further,
That Cambridge Leaseholds be approached to provide input with respect to our proposed short term and
long term repair strategy for the Market Square Garage."
The members of the Committee agreed that Mayor Christy's motion would be voted on, on a clause by
clause basis.
Councillor J. Ziegler introduced an amendment to Clause 1 which would approve repair strategy D-2 in
principle and add a condition regarding a commitment from Cambridge Leaseholds regarding their
long range plans for the Shopping Plaza. The amendment, as introduced by Councillor Ziegler, was
put to a vote and was defeated. It is noted that Councillor Ziegler's amendment was supported by
Councillor Ziegler, Councillor Lorentz, Councillor Vrbanovic and Councillor Jake Smola.
Following further discussion, the motion, as originally introduced by His Worship Mayor R. Christy, was
put to a vote on a clause by clause basis.
Clause #1 - Carried
Opposed: Councillors Ziegler, Lorentz, Vrbanovic and Jake Smola.
Clause #2 - Carried
Clause #3 - Carried
Clause #4 - Carried
4. Revised Traffic Control Siqnal Warrants
This informational report was received by the Committee.
5. Part-Time Bus Drivers
Councillor J. Ziegler advised that he has received a copy of a letter regarding the possible use of part-
time bus drivers. Councillor Ziegler requested that this matter be discussed at the next meeting of
the Public Works and Transportation Committee.
6. Bus Rodeo
Councillor B. Vrbanovic was congratulated for winning the Councillor Challenge at the Bus Rodeo held on
May 28th. It was noted that this is the fourth year in a row that a representative from Kitchener
Council has won this event.
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7.Lonq Term Strateq¥ - Kitchener Farmers' Market
At the request of Councillor G. Lorentz, it was agreed that the report regarding a long term strategy for the
Farmers' Market would be presented to a meeting of the Community Services Committee in
September of this year.
8. Fleet Operation - Public Input
Councillor G. Lorentz suggested to staff that when Fleet Operations are reviewed input should be
received from the public sector.
9.Adjournment
On motion, the meeting adjourned at 11:20 a.m.
L.F. Parkhouse, AMCT
Deputy City Clerk