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SPECIAL COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MINUTES
JULY 13, 1992
The Committee of the Whole met this date commencing at 3:10 p.m. under the chairmanship of Mayor
D.V. Cardillo with all members present except Alderman G. Lorentz.
Notice of the special meeting to discuss the possibility of a Double A Baseball franchise for the
municipality was given pursuant to Council's procedural by-law.
1. Double A Baseball Franchise
Council was in receipt of a letter from Mayor D.V. Cardillo dated July 8, 1992 as well as reports from Mr.
T. McKay and Mr. F.S. Graham, both dated July 9, 1992.
Mr. R. McKillop, 54 Winding Way, appeared on behalf of RCAN and Associates, concerning a proposal
to locate a professional baseball franchise at the Double A level in the municipality. Mr. McKillop stated
that his company had been commissioned by the City to prepare a report assessing the facilities at Jack
Couch Park relative to the accommodation of a professional sports franchise. He advised that he had
attended the 1992 Baseball Winter Meetings in Miami, Florida, where a franchise opportunity arose. He
noted that the City would have six weeks to respond to a franchise proposal based on the schedule
imposed by the Applications Committee. Mr. McKillop advised that at present, the identity of the
ownership group is confidential.
In response to a question from Alderman M. Yantzi, Mr. F.S. Graham indicated that it was his
understanding Council had no interest in a Single A franchise and pointed out that the proposal before
them this date was not solicited by staff. Mr. McKillop added that he had travelled to Florida in order to
finish the assessment report and while there, had made it known to delegates at the Winter Meetings that
Kitchener may have an interest in a Double A expansion. Alderman C. Zehr enquired as to the
profitability of a Double A franchise and requested various documents in this regard. Mr. McKillop replied
that he has in his possession, three financial statements which meet State requirements and a good idea
as to the operating expenses and market rate for stadium rental. He added that this type of information is
difficult to obtain without an individual proposal submission. Mr. McKillop pointed out that an average
rental rate of $50,000 could be assumed, however, other services such as providing a grounds crew may
be included in this rate. Mayor D.V. Cardillo added that more detailed information will be forthcoming.
Alderman B. Stortz questioned the accuracy of the $3,000,000 to $5,000,000 estimate of expenditures
required to upgrade existing facilities. Mr. McKillop replied that the figures were prepared by a consulting
engineer based on the Jack Couch site. He added that the existing stadium orientation is incorrect, but
the site itself is promising. Mr. McKillop suggested that with regard to the stadium facility, the City would
have the opinion of either changing the orientation, locating the field on another part of the site or
assessing the feasibility of alternate sites. He pointed out that the City has a video tape of every site
visited during the preparation of the RCAN Assessment Report, as well as the proposed layout of a
Double A stadium. Alderman B. Stortz advised that abutting neighbours have expressed concern over
the further development of Jack Couch Park and this would not be a preferred alternative.
Alderman J. Ziegler entered the meeting at this time.
A general discussion took place concerning details of a franchise arrangement. Mr. McKillop noted that
under the present circumstances, the stadium would have to be renovated or constructed in 1993, with
play beginning in 1994. In response to a question from Alderman M. Yantzi concerning the terms of the
franchise, Mr. McKillop advised that there is the option of a two or four year term and the franchise would
guarantee use beyond the four-year term. Alderman Zehr enquired as to the value of the guarantee and
Mr. McKillop replied that the ownership group is prepared to make a commitment and that baseball
leagues have a history of longevity. He added that there is however, a possibility of failure, but based on
the study undertaken he feels the franchise would work. Alderman G. Leadston suggested that an
additional report be prepared as outlined in Option B of Mr. McKay's report, which would also include
information on the economic spinoffs and costs to the City. Mr. McKillop asked that RCAN and
Associates be permitted to develop a final proposal and budget figures which would include the impact on
both City facilities and taxpayers.
Mr. F.S. Graham suggested that a third option would be to delay any action at this time pending an
examination of the priority of a Double A franchise relative to other projects in the Capital Forecast.
Moved by Alderman G. Leadston
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"That as soon as possible, staff prepare a report concerning possible accommodation of a Double
A franchise and which will include the following: projected expenditures and expenditure timing;
alternatives for financing; the net effect on the operating budget of entering into a franchise
agreement over the next five years; the legal requirements of the agreement, including any
requirements relative to Ontario Municipal Board approval; the impact on local baseball operations
of accommodating a Double A franchise at Jack Couch Park and any other suitable facility; and
the economic impact on the community of locating a franchise in Kitchener.
Alderman C. Zehr reviewed the City's prior involvement with the Kitchener Rangers and the Kitchener
Kickers and noted that with respect to the latter, capital expenditures exceeded return on investment by
approximately 95%. He added that the $50,000 rental fee referred to earlier by Mr. McKillop may be
insufficient. He suggested that at present, the City does not have $3,000,000 to invest in this project, nor
is the economic climate favourable. He stated that if the motion of Alderman Leadston were defeated, he
would be prepared to introduce a motion to assess the proposal relative to the Capital Forecast.
The motion by Alderman G. Leadston directing staff to prepare a further report was voted on and LOST
on a recorded vote.
In favour: Mayor D.V. Cardillo, Aldermen G. Leadston and T.
Galloway.
Contra: Aldermen C. Zehr, M. Wagner, M. Yantzi, B. Stortz, J.
Ziegler, J. Smola and C. Weylie.
Alderman C. Zehr put forward a motion to consider the upgrading of Jack Couch Park to meet Double A
Franchise standards as part of the budget process relative to the ten-year Capital Forecast. Alderman
Zehr accepted, as a friendly amendment, the request of Alderman Stortz that other baseball facilities or
site be considered in addition to Jack Couch Park.
On motion by Alderman C. Zehr-
It was resolved:
"That the construction or upgrading of a facility in the City to meet the standards associated with a
Double A Baseball Franchise be considered in conjunction with the budget process as it relates to
the ten-year Capital Forecast, and further,
That the above direction not be considered as an endorsement of the recent proposal to locate
such a franchise in the City."
On motion the meeting adjourned at 4:20 p.m.
Mayor Clerk