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HomeMy WebLinkAboutCommunity Svcs - 1992-04-27CSC\1992-04-27 COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE MEETING MONDAY APRIL 27, 1992 The Community Services Committee met this date under the Chairmanship of Alderman G. Lorentz with the following members present: Mayor D.V. Cardillo, Alderman T. Galloway, Alderman G. Leadston, Alderman J. Smola, Alderman M. Wagner, Alderman C. Weylie, Alderman C. Zehr, Alderman J. Ziegler. Others Present: Messrs. F. Graham, T. Clancy, G. Nixon, T. McKay, L. Wiegand, B. Stanley, R. Arnot, R. Wyatt, J. Wallace, J. Gazzola, Fire Chief J. Hancock, Messrs. G. Strauss, H. Hoist, Ms. L. Bamford, Ms. B. Spry, and Ms. D.H. Gilchrist. This meeting of the Community Services Committee commenced at 1:42 p.m. 1. Minutes Alderman G. Leadston requested that Item #14, Paragraph 3, Page 88, of the minutes of the Community Services Committee of April 6, 1992, as mailed to the members, be clarified to show that 3 of the 5 1991 Market Facility Grant Requests were approved and there were a total of 59 Market Facility Rentals in 1991. On motion by Alderman J. Smola it was resolved: "That the Minutes of the regular meeting of the Community Services Committee, of April 6, 1992, as mailed to the members, be accepted." 2. Delegation - Kitchener-Waterloo Track & Field Association Mr. B. Trout was in attendance on behalf of the Association and Ms. M.J. Schlegel was in attendance on behalf of the Waterloo Region Associated Track & Field Clubs. Alderman M. Wagner introduced this report advising that the recommendation before this Committee today was developed by one member of each of the two Councils and one member from the staff of each of the two municipalities. Further he advised that this is the third task force that has been established to investigate this matter. The second task force having advised the two track & field associations that they should sit down and discuss their problems and resolve them. To date this has not happened. Staff people from both municipalities have agreed to attend the amalgamation meeting and Alderman M. Wagner suggested that the associations be given until the fall of 1992 to work out an amalgamation. When questioned by the Committee, Mr. R. Arnot advised that the City of Waterloo is dealing with this same report today. Mr. Trout addressed the Committee stating that it is his opinion that there should be one body delivering track & field services in the Twin Cities and that it should be the existing body which is the K-W Track & Field Association. Further he advised that if the negotiations are to work, there should be an obligation on both groups to work for amalgamation. He requested that the summary in the report be changed to note that both sides are responsible for working co-operatively with one another. Alderman G. Lorentz suggested that the process continue until the fall of 1992 and that a report be brought back to the Community Services Committee at that time. Mr. R. Arnot advised that as per the fourth page of the summary in the report, this process will continue. Alderman M. Wagner suggested that both sides negotiate with each other with the eventuality of becoming one club. He put forward the motion as contained in the staff report. Alderman C. Zehr suggested that there are still some reasons to continue negotiating and to adopt the recommendation in the staff report prejudices the ultimate solution that may be negotiated. Alderman J. Ziegler suggested that a motion be adopted to defer consideration of this report until the end of November. Delegation - Kitchener-Waterloo Track & Field Association (cont'd) COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE - 91 - APRIL 27, 1992 Mr. B. Trout advised that the Track & Field Association would like to resolve this problem as soon as possible. He stated that negotiations are taking place at this time and that there has to be a give and take on both sides. He requested that consideration of the report not be deferred until the fall as it will soon be the track & field season and once the members of the club get involved in the season they will put off negotiations. Ms. M.J. Schlegel addressed the Committee giving a summary of the process that the clubs have been involved in since June of last year. She questioned the Committee as to whether or not the City would be prepared only to have one of the two clubs, or one new club with a new constitution, or one affiliated organization. She stated that 80% of the track & field membership is with the Waterloo Region Associated Track & Field Clubs. She stated that many considerations must be made and questioned whether an umbrella organization with each club operating on its own would be acceptable. She stated that the report in front of the Committee of this date does not give clear direction. In response, Mr. Arnot advised that the report does give clear direction and that the recommendation contained in the report is valid. He advised that the cities do not want to get into affiliated groups and have spent three years trying to pull this report together. Mr. D. Shadd, President of the K-W Track & Field Association addressed the Committee advising that this association has been affiliated with the City for 26 years. Further he advised that the Track & Field Association has done nothing to contradict the policies established by the cities and that there is no problem in his opinion, with the recommendation being put forward today. Mr. R. McKillop, spoke on behalf of the K-W Track & Field Association advising that every club operated on a democratic principle. No one has said what the K-W Track & Field Association has done wrong and to approve of two groups or an affiliated group opens up the possibility for any disenchanted individuals in any of the minor sports associations to splinter off from their group and form a new one. Further he stated that the K-W Track & Field Association has done nothing wrong to lose the respect of the City. Alderman T. Galloway advised that it is not Council's job to get involved in the internal politics of groups and to defer consideration of this report is only delaying the inevitable. Further he stated that the K-W Track & Field Association has always been the recognized group. Council should be concerned about sending out the right message to all other minor sports groups and it was his opinion that the Committee should accept the motion put forward in the report in its entirety. Discussion took place over the wording of the recommendation in the report and it was suggested to Alderman M. Wagner that the last clause concerning the specific name of the association should be removed from the recommendation and in its place a deadline of November 30, 1992 should be inserted. Alderman M. Wagner accepted this as a friendly amendment. The motion was voted on and lost. On motion by Alderman M. Wagner it was resolved: "That the Kitchener Parks & Recreation Department and the Waterloo Department of Recreation and Culture, in accordance with their established policies and practices, affiliate with one minor sports organization for the primary delivery of track & field programs and services in Kitchener-Waterloo; and further, That this affiliated organization be the K-W Track & Field Association (K.W.T.F.A.)." 3. Jack Couch Ball Park Report The Committee was in receipt of a letter from Mr. F.S. Graham, dated April 21, 1992 along with a report prepared by R.C.A.N. & Associates dated March 26, 1992 titled "Assessment of Jack Couch Park for Minor Pro Baseball and/or Other Uses." 3. Jack Couch Ball Park Report (cont'd) COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE - 92 - APRIL 27, 1992 Mr. R. McKillop and Mr. W. Green were in attendance to present the report advising that the study was put out to determine the interest in professional baseball and how the park responded to their requirements. Mr. McKillop reviewed the report as attached to the agenda. Mr. Green displayed a survey of the existing facility and plans showing the changes that would be required for a Single A and a Double AA pro ball facility. General discussion took place over the report and Alderman C. Zehr questioned Page 6 of the report in which it states that the "Community Recreation Impact Model that was modified for the City of Kitchener shows a 1.58 return on Capital Investment." Mr. Green advised that this figure identifies the benefit to the community from the construction costs and that this is based on a traditional model of spending specific to the City of Kitchener. He states that this is an economic multiplier which deals with recreation and tourism spending developed by the province. Alderman C. Zehr advised that he did not want to make any kind of commitment to do anything at this time. Mr. T. McKay advised that the purpose of the report was to allow the Committee to decide if it would actively pursue a professional baseball franchise. Alderman G. Lorentz suggested that the Committee should not be making any rash decisions at this time as there are no capital dollars in the budget for this type of work. On motion by Mayor D.V. Cardillo it was resolved: "That the report titled "Assessment of Jack Couch Park for Minor Pro Baseball and/or Other Uses" prepared by R.C.A.N. & Associates, dated March 26, 1992, as presented to the Community Services Committee on April 27, 1992, be received from information purposes, at this time." 4. Cost Of Recovery For False Alarms and Repeat Users of Fire Service The Committee was in receipt of a report from Fire Chief J. Hancock, dated March 31, 1992, which had been prepared at the request of this Committee. On motion by Alderman C. Zehr it was resolved: "That no action be taken to initiate cost recovery for false alarms or repeat service demands for emergency fire vehicles." 5. Self Contained Breathinq Apparatus Messrs. G. Straus and H. Hoist were in attendance to display one of the new self contained breathing apparatus purchased by the Fire Department and to give a verbal report in this regard. The Committee recessed at 3:00 p.m. to allow for the Special Council Meeting and reconvened at 3:25 p.m. Mr. G. Straus gave an overhead presentation in which he reviewed the manufacturer's responsibilities, the employer's responsibilities, the employee's responsibilities and the training requirements with respect to the self contained breathing apparatus. Mr. T. McKay raised the question as to whether or not a person with a beard could wear this self contained breathing apparatus. Fire Chief J. Hancock responded that the apparatus can be worn by a person with a beard however there would be an air leak and that person would go through air faster. He stated that it would not be recommended but it could be done; however, he would recommend against it. Alderman G. Lorentz questioned whether someone wearing eye glasses could wear the self contained breathing apparatus and Mr. G. Straus responded that the face mask can be retro-fit for eye glasses. 5. Self Contained Breathinq Apparatus (cont'd) COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE - 93 - APRIL 27, 1992 The Committee was advised that the users of the self contained breathing apparatus would start training in June of this year and it is anticipated that implementation would be by year end. 6. Grant Appeals The Committee considered the two grant appeals received: one from the Waterloo Regional Arts Council and one from the K-W Spinners & Weavers Guild. The Committee was in receipt of a memo from Mr. L. Wiegand, dated March 31, 1992, in this regard. On motion by Alderman C. Weylie it was resolved: "That a cash grant in the amount of $500.00 be approved for the K-W Spinners & Weavers Guild." Discussion then took place over the appeal of the Waterloo Regional Arts Council and the grant which was approved by this Committee at its last meeting and ratified by Council. It was pointed out that the grant approved at the last meeting was for a special purpose to allow the Waterloo Regional Arts Council to move to new premises and the grant request before them today is to cover operating expenses. On motion by Alderman T. Galloway it was resolved: "That a cash grant, in the amount of $2,678.00 be approved for the Waterloo Regional Arts Council, to assist with their operational expenses; and further, That no action be taken on the appeal of the Waterloo Regional Arts Council to this grant funding." 7. Vacant Space 8 Bridqe Street East The Committee was in receipt of a report from Mr. G. Kett, Manager, Cemeteries Division, dated April 10, 1992. On motion by Mayor D.V. Cardillo it was resolved: "That the Mayor & Clerk be authorized to sign and seal an addendum to a lease with 793379 Ontario Limited, continued under the name of Ring O' Rosie Day Care Ltd., for use of the existing vacant space in the lower level of 8 Bridge Street East, as presented to the Community Services Committee on April 27, 1992." 8. Information Items The Committee acknowledged receipt of the following items for information purposes: (a) (b) (c) (d) (e) Status of General Provision of non-recurring grants Canada 125 Events in Kitchener Community Trails COE Information KMA Reports: (i) (ii) (iii) (iv) (v) Canadian Hockey Enterprises Hockey Tournament Summary Kitchener Ringette Appreciation Letter KMA Monthly Summary, March 1992 KMA Hockey Breakdown, March 1992 IAAM Article "Changes Inevitable for the Future" Questions were raised concerning the Community Trails and Canada 125 events in Kitchener. Concerning Community Trails, Alderman M. Wagner requested that this matter be brought back to the Community Services Committee sometime before next years budget, perhaps early fall. He referred to the K-W Cycling Committee and suggested, along with Alderman C. Weylie, that the budget for Community Trails be increased. COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE 8. 10. - 94 - APRIL 27, 1992 Information Items (cont'd) Concerning the Canada 125 events in Kitchener, the Committee directed that Ms. G. Holstead prepare a more complete list to be reviewed by the Committee at its next meeting. Mr. F. Graham advised that Ms. Holstead will attend the Committee's next meeting. NEXT MEETING The next meeting of the Community Services Committee will be held on Monday, May 11, 1992, commencing at 1:00 p.m. in Committee Room 4. Adjournment On motion the meeting adjourned at 4:00 p.m. Dianne H. Gilchrist Committee Secretary