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FEBRUARY 9, 1998
COMMUNITY SERVICES COMMITTEE MINUTES
CITY OF KITCHENER
The Community Services Committee met this date, under the chairmanship of Councillor G. Lorentz,
commencing at 1:40 p.m., with the following members present: Councillor T. Galloway, Councillor J.
Haalboom, Councillor Jake Smola, Councillor K. Taylor-Harrison, Councillor B. Vrbanovic, Councillor C.
Weylie and Councillor J. Ziegler. Mayor C. Zehr and Councillor John Smola were in attendance for part
of the meeting.
Others Present:
Ms. P. Houston, Messrs. J. Gazzola, T. Clancy, R. Arnot, N. Kuntz, M. Price, R.
Wyatt, K. Baulk, and Ms. D. Gilchrist.
1. EASTERN ONTARIO ICE STORM
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Mr. N. Kuntz, Deputy Fire Chief, dated February 4,
1998, with respect to the emergency relief provided to the victims of the ice storm in Eastern
Canada, in January, 1998. Mr. Kuntz was in attendance to represent the report and gave a brief
outline of it, including the areas of improvement for our own Emergency Plan, which he hopes to
achieve in 1998.
The Committee discussed the costs involved, as outlined in the report, and Councillor T. Galloway
stated that, unless money is available to the Province, this would be a goodwill gesture on the part
of the City of Kitchener. He noted that if the Province has a disaster relief fund then the City of
Kitchener should apply, but the City should not be billing those we assisted. Mr. N. Kuntz noted
that the municipalities that had the disasters are responsible for the costs, as the Province did not
declare the disaster. Mr. T. Clancy noted that he had spoken with Kitchener-Wilmot Hydro and
because they were requested to provide assistance by Ontario Hydro, they expect to recover their
costs. Because their jurisdiction is different it may be that they can recover their costs from a
different fund. Councillor T. Galloway stated that he stood by his suggestion that this be a
goodwill gesture and if there is a fund, provincially, then the City should apply. He noted that a
fundraising event was supposed to take place and the City pledged $2,700.00. As the event did
not take place he suggested that the City should donate this money to the Red Cross Disaster
Relief Fund. He noted that the City's contribution through staffing and equipment may be part of
the City's contribution. He asked staff to advise what has been done by other municipalities and in
other disasters. Mr. J. Gazzola advised that staff didn't have an answer at this time but they will do
research and report back.
Mayor C. Zehr entered the meeting at this time.
2. COMMUNITY ARENAS AND VICTORIA PARK BOATHOUSE CONCESSION OPERATIONS
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Mr. R. Wyatt, Manager, Athletics, Community
Arenas, Design/Development, dated February 2, 1997, outlining recommendations with respect to
the operation of concessions at the 5 community arenas, the Picnic Booth concession at the rear
of Victoria Park and the Victoria Park Boathouse. Mr. Wyatt was in attendance to represent the
report and to answer any questions the Committee might have in this regard. The Committee
members were also in receipt of a copy of an e-mail from Councillor M. Yantzi concerning the
operation of the Victoria Park Boathouse. Mr. R. Wyatt gave an explanation of the benefits of the
City taking back these operations and operating them themselves.
Councillor J. Ziegler questioned whether the City received $35,000.00 less per year by contracting
out which Mr. Wyatt confirmed was correct.
Councillor John Smola entered the meeting at this time.
Councillor Ziegler questioned capital improvements and Mr. Wyatt advised that there will be some
capital improvements, but not a lot, as the previous operator did many capital improvements.
Councillor B. Vrbanovic questioned whether sales had gone down and whether the City could
expect sales to be down. Mr. Wyatt responded that the business is still there and that the City can
do at least as well as they did before, if not better. He also confirmed that Brown's sales are up
from when they started.
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Councillor T. Galloway stated that when the City would resume the operation it would not have the
infrastructure in place within the Parks and Recreation Department and questioned what it would
take. Mr. R. Wyatt explained that the department will hire and train its own staff. Councillor
Galloway questioned who would set-up the concessions and Mr. Wyatt advised that the existing
arena managers would perform that function.
Councillor T. Galloway noted Councillor M. Yantzi's request to see something special take place at
the Boathouse, something more than just a concession, and questioned whether this was still
valid. He stated that Council wanted to see a special restaurant or cafe located there and he was
not convinced that the City is in the business of doing that. He suggested trying one more time to
find a private operator for this facility. Mr. R. Wyatt responded that staff could do as Councillor
Galloway requested. He noted that 5 years ago the City put out an extensive request for proposal
and there were only 2 final groups coming out of this request and the best one was the past
operator. He noted that given the location and the type of building, these are things that worked
against the past operator including the seasonal nature of the business and the limited parking.
Councillor T. Galloway noted that Brown's still operates the concessions in the Kitchener Memorial
Auditorium Complex and questioned whether the logic could be extended there as well. He
questioned whether it was logical to conclude that staff could do better at the Kitchener Memorial
Auditorium. Mr. K. Baulk responded that one of the great savings by going to Brown's at the
Auditorium was eliminating the staff person. Further, the guarantees by Brown's were greater that
what we had made ourselves.
Councillor J. Haalboom stated that she could not conclude that it was not in our best interest to
tender again. She felt it would be best to tender the Boathouse operation and give a private
operator an opportunity. Further, she stated that the City should ask for themes.
Councillor B. Vrbanovic questioned the length of the contract at the Auditorium and Mr. K. Baulk
advised that the contract goes to 2001. Councillor B. Vrbanovic then questioned why all of this
couldn't be tendered out as one package and why it was being tendered individually. Mr. R. Wyatt
responded that it was not being treated individually and that Brown's has tried to operate all
concessions together.
Mr. T. Clancy advised that this report is a year ahead of time and that there is time to review the
matter and break down each piece. He also noted that the margin is not there for the Boathouse.
He noted that staff were breaking down each element and making it work on its own merit. He
stated that a theme idea had been tried; however, the margin of profit was not enough to cover the
cost of the capital improvements. He also felt that clumping all these concessions together is not
necessarily the best idea.
Councillor B. Vrbanovic recommended deferring consideration of the matter for more information
about the operation of the Auditorium concessions over the past 5 to 6 years, including actual
sales and number of staff. Further, he wanted information to help the Committee determine
whether the 2 should be considered differently. It was also his opinion that the Boathouse does
have the ability to have a little more flare and that should be pursued. Councillor K. Taylor-
Harrison advised that she would second such a motion. Councillor J. Haalboom stated that a
theme could be included in the call for proposal and she wanted this added.
Councillor G. Lorentz stated that there are real problems with the Boathouse operation including
parking and, unless there are special events taking place in the park, there is not a lot of money
being spent. He requested that staff dig up the minutes from the sub-committee meetings which
took place the last time there was a call for interest, so that Council can see what took place when
the previous decision was made.
Councillor K. Taylor-Harrison suggested that staff set out the limitations of the operation in the call
for proposal.
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(CONT'D)
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On motion by Councillor B. Vrbanovic -
it was resolved:
"That Parks and Recreation staff prepare a call for proposal for operation of a
restaurant/concession at the Victoria Park Boathouse, to be presented to the Community
Services Committee on February 23, 1998, and further,
That Parks and Recreation staff prepare a report, for the Community Services Committee
meeting of March 23, 1998, with more information on the operation of concessions at the
community arenas, concessions at the K.M.A. Complex, so that the Committee can review
the merits of combining or separating these 2 operations."
1998 ARTIST IN RESIDENCE
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Mr. M. Price, Manager, Culture, Events, Leisure
Programs, dated January 1998, advising of the recommendation of the Public Art Committee that
Mr. R. Hewson be named the 1998 Artist in Residence.
On motion by Mayor C. Zehr -
it was resolved:
"That we support the recommendation of the Public Art Committee that Ron Hewson be
named the 1998 City of Kitchener Artist in Residence, and further,
That the Mayor and Clerk be authorized to sign a license agreement with Ron Hewson to
officially place him as the City of Kitchener Artist in Residence for 1998."
DELEGATION - KITCHENER HORTICULTURAL SOCIETY - GRANT REQUEST
Ms. G. Sears, President, and Mr. B. McNeil, Member of the Board of Directors, of the Kitchener
Horticultural Society were in attendance to support their request for an operating grant in 1998.
Ms. Sears addressed the Committee advising that she wished to support their grant request which
was submitted in the fall and also to advise that she submitted a request to the Mayor to have a
member of Council sit on the Kitchener Horticultural Society Board of Directors. She provided the
Committee with a verbal update on their 1997 accomplishments and background on the
Horticultural Society. She advised that the Society has 2 separate focuses, 1 being horticultural
activities and the other Rockway Gardens. She noted that they were facing a large challenge in
1998 as 66% of their board members have left and there is a fair amount of work to do to re-
establish their base. She advised that in November 1997 they held a special meeting of past and
present board members and it was determined through that meeting that there is a need to direct
more of their energy into their broader base of activities. Ms. Sears advised that they have been
talking with staff with respect to reducing some of their expenses and they have had useful
discussions which will continue and in this regard she thanked Mr. T. Clancy. Ms. Sears also
advised that they have considered different approaches for fundraising. Ms. Sears then
distributed copies of the Rockway Gardens budget for 1996, 1997 and projected 1998 budget and
highlighted specific items in the budget. Councillor J. Ziegler noted staff increases and Ms. Sears
advised that the staff at the Rockway Gardens make less than comparable City staff and they do
not have the same benefits. She also stated that if the Horticultural Society is not successful in
their grant request then they may have to consider whether they can continue carrying Rockway
Gardens as a horticultural garden. She stated that they may have to give some responsibilities
back to the City. A discussion then took place over volunteer hours in the gardens and in other
activities, equipment replacement needs and memberships.
Councillor G. Lorentz questioned Mayor C. Zehr as to whether he had any thoughts on a member
of Council being on the Board and the Mayor said he would follow up on this separately.
5. DELEGATION SKILL CANADA PROVINCIAL & NATIONAL COMPETITIONS - GRANT
REQUEST
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Mr. Bill Harrison and Ms. H. Thompson were in attendance to represent the request of Skills
Canada for awarding the 1998 and 1999 Provincial Skills Canada (Ontario) competition to the City
of Kitchener along with the 1999 National Skills Canada competition. The Committee was in
receipt of a report from Mr. K. Baulk, Manager, Kitchener Memorial Auditorium Complex, dated
February 3, 1998, in support of awarding these competitions to the City and recommending silver
sponsorships for both competitions. Mr. Harrison addressed the Committee and presented their
proposal and thanked the City for its 1997 grant. Mr. Harrison explained the grant request and the
amount of support and sponsorships being received from other levels of government and from
private industry. He advised that Skills Canada (Ontario) has moved its head office from Barrie to
Kitchener.
Ms. H. Thompson, a competitor in the 1997 Skills Canada competition, spoke of her experience
and how these competitions benefit the students involved.
Councillor B. Vrbanovic put forward a motion that the City provide a grant in the amount of
$5,000.00 for 1998 and take on a Gold Sponsorship, in the amount of $15,000.00 for the national
competition to take place in 1999. He stated that this event has real potential to showcase our
community and he urged staff to consider the Kitchener Utilities' logo for this event. A debate took
place on whether or not it was appropriate to award a grant in the amount $15,000.00 as a ceiling
on grants had been set with the Women's World Hockey championships at $10,000.00, and some
of the members of the Committee were concerned about raising that limit. Councillor B. Vrbanovic
responded that he felt this was different than a sporting event as it focuses on our youth and that is
an important factor. He stated that youth unemployment is a very serious problem and he felt that
the City should give this level of support. Councillor T. Galloway stated that the City is not into
education and it is in the event of business and that this should be looked at as an event. He
stated that the most the City has ever awarded is $10,000.00 and he wanted to maintain that limit.
Councillor Vrbanovic's motion was voted on and lost.
On motion by Councillor T. Galloway -
it was resolved:
"That we support the awarding of the 1998 and 1999 Provincial Skills Canada (Ontario)
competition and the 1999 National Skills Canada competition to the City of Kitchener, and
further,
That the City contribute, from its grant account, a total of $5,000.00 in 1998 to purchase a
Silver Sponsorship for the Provincial competition and $10,000.00 in 1999 to purchase a
Silver Sponsorship for the National competition."
DELEGATION - ONTARIO HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY CHAMPIONSHIP - GRANT REQUEST
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Mr. K. Baulk, Manager, Kitchener Memorial
Auditorium, dated January 20, 1998, recommending that the City support the bid to host the 2000
Ontario High School Hockey Championship at the City of Kitchener. It also recommended an in-
kind grant in the amount of $2,000.00. Mr. A. Garrett was in attendance to represent the request
and to answer any questions the Committee might have in this regard. He advised that the 20
best high school hockey teams will be competing in this championship and he advised of the
financial benefits to the community.
On motion by Councillor John Smola -
it was resolved:
"That the City of Kitchener support the bid to host the 2000 Ontario High School Hockey
Championship tentatively scheduled for March 15 - 18, 2000, and further,
6. DELEGATION - ONTARIO HIGH SCHOOL HOCKEY CHAMPIONSHIP - GRANT REQUEST
(CONT'D)
That an in-kind facility rental grant in the amount of $2,000.00 be provided to the local host
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committee to partially off-set ice rental costs at the Kitchener Memorial Auditorium
Complex."
DELEGATION - K-W AREA VISITOR AND CONVENTION BUREAU - GRANT REQUEST
Ms. L. Kennedy was in attendance on behalf of the K-W Area Visitor and Convention Bureau to
support the grant request for a 1998 operating grant. She advised of the importance of tourism to
the local economy stating that statistics have shown that in 1996, locally, tourism brought $232M
to the community and supported 4,000 jobs. She stated that these figures make tourism a key
player in the economic development of the area. She advised that the Visitor and Convention
Bureau is a destination marketing organization, it is also a co-ordinating body with 150 member
businesses. Ms. Kennedy also advised that the City gets 4,200 information requests answered by
the bureau each year and 30% of these requests are from local residents. The Committee
members then reviewed the budget and asked questions about specific line items in the budget. It
was also noted by Councillor T. Galloway that the 2 larger municipalities provide $1.00 per capita
in funding, whereas the townships provide approximately $0.15 per capita and questioned whether
there was any efforts to get the townships contributions up to the levels of the cities. Ms. Kennedy
explained how the Woolwich Chamber of Commerce provided some of their own services in this
regard.
DELEGATION - KITCHENER-WATERLOO SYMPHONY ORCHESTRA ASSOCIATION
GRANT REQUEST
Representatives were in attendance from the Kitchener Waterloo Symphony Orchestra
Association to represent their grant request for operating funds in 1998. It was noted that Council
had directed that the in-kind facility rental grant previously provided to the Taste of Waterloo
County should, this year, be included in the Symphony's grant request. It was pointed out that the
Centre in the Square receives revenue from the Symphony in the amount of $400,000.00 and that
40% of the Centre in the Square performance activity is done by the Symphony. It was also
pointed out that the City of Kitchener grant, in 1997, represented 4% of the total budget for the
Symphony.
Councillor J. Ziegler noted that the Symphony's request was 10% higher than it was in 1997 and
questioned whether there is a contingency plan in place if they receive the same or less than last
year. The representatives stated that they would leave no stone unturned and that they would put
on as many concerts in other cities in Ontario as they could and they are trying to grow that
business. It was noted that there are a variety of ways for the Symphony to grow their revenues.
Mayor C. Zehr questioned monies expected from the Canada Council and the Ontario government
and was advised that the Canada Council monies are expected to remain flat and that they had
been assured by the provincial government that funding for 3 years would be stable and then the
government cut their funding by 30% so they are not sure what to expect from the provincial
government.
DELEGATION - K-W MULTICULTURAL CENTRE - GRANT REQUEST
Ms. M. Revera was in attendance on behalf of the K-W Multicultural Centre to represent their
request for a 1998 operating grant. Ms. Revera advised that last year, when making a similar
presentation, a comment had been made to her that perhaps she should talk about everything the
Multicultural Centre does, so she is in attendance this date to explain what the Multicultural Centre
is doing. She advised that she has come to ask to start a conversation about the work they do in
this community for its residents. She advised that the Multicultural Centre has 3 full-time staff and
3 part-time staff. The Centre looked after 2,092 first time clients this year and that does not
include immigrants coming to the community from other cities in Canada such as Montreal and
Thunder Bay. She advised that in 1997 the Centre saw over 9,000 clients. She stated that in
1997 the Centre worked with 175 businesses or agencies in this community because they did not
know how to work with the immigrants. The Centre has approximately 250 volunteers who work
with 52 different languages. She also advised that 80%
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of their clients live in the City of Kitchener. Ms. Revera suggested that there may be other ways to
cover the grant such as offering services in exchange for rent.
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Councillor J. Haalboom questioned whether there was any other organization in the city who who
can provide the same services and Ms. Revera responded that the Y gets some funding but that
the Multicultural Centre does more things than the Y can do.
INFORMATION ITEMS
The Committee acknowledged receipt of the information items attached to the agenda. In addition,
staff distributed an information report with respect to the feeding of ducks in Victoria Park.
Councillor J. Haalboom advised that Mr. Fischer who had been selling potatoes at the Kitchener
Farmers' Market has died. She advised that he lived at the farmstead at 1 Oregon Drive which is
within the Upper Doon Heritage Conservation District. She questioned how we recognized
someone such as this. Staff were requested to come back with some suggestions.
ADJOURNMENT
On motion the meeting adjourned at 4:15 p.m..
Dianne H. Gilchrist
Committee Secretary