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BUSINESS AND INDUSTRY ADVISORY COMMITTEE
MINUTES
THURSDAY, MARCH RI, 1996
PRESENT:
Mike Hiscott (Chah'), Councillor Berry Vrbanovic, Dan Beach, Susan
McConnell, Carl Zeht; Elliott Currie, John Bingeman, Denise Sh'ong, John
Tibbits, Bob C~ickshanl~ Jeff Morris, Atso Saarkoppel, John Hoffman,
Larry Blundell and l(im Cowan
ALSO PRESENT: Valerie Gibaut~ Jane Jantzi, Tim McCabe, Dave ManseH and Tom McKay
RECORDER: Sandy Curzon
Ray Robinson, Associate Vice-l:q'esident~ IndustHaFCommercial Ontario Division of Royal
LePage, after giving a brief overview of his company and personal background, elaborated
on development charges as they relate to expansion of existing companies and new venture~
kV[r. Robinson gave an example using Toyota which paid $1.90/sq. ft~ in regional development
charges for its $3 million dollar additio~ The City of Cambridge exempted Toyota from
paying the City development charge~ kV[r. Robinson referred to development charges for
existing businesses as "legalized extortion"
Nh'. Robinson reviewed average prices of industrial land and the development charges
apphed to develop the land as it relates to the GTA and 'Marketplace'. The 'Marketplace'
consists of cities from Cambridge east to Toronto and west to Londo~ It is his opinion that
once a developer has decided to build outside the GTA area, land prices including the
development charges in this 'marketplace' need to be competitive. Nh'. Robinson then
proceeded to intbrm Committee that when he has a prospect that wants to locate outside the
GTA area, he emphasises that Canada's Technology Triangle cities of Kitchener, Waterloo,
Guelph and Cambridge are within thh'ty minutes of any location within the hqangle.
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Dave ManseH asked how municipahties should pay for intYast~cture ff development charges
are not paid for non-residential development Including the development charge in the cost
of land was a highly favoured optiom Nh'. Robinson backed this up by giving an example of
a Guelph industry which needed to expand, the City of Guelph would not include the
development charges, thus the company moved to Guelph township where the development
charges were waived. This loss of an existing business cost the City of Guelph $300,000. in
taxes Municipalities need to develop ways to get the new businesses, no matter what the
sac~4fice.
Tim McCabe advised that the city cannot legally offer special deals with respect to
development charges He did illustrate however that we do have the ability to exempt a
specific area~ Lc. the downtown, from development charges F~xisting PI'ovincial legislation
states that no increases can be implemented pending new legislation expected in the fall of
1996.
It was suggested that the Inventory of Sites and Buildings could include intbrmation with
respect to applicable development charges on properties Staff will consider this suggestion in
future issues
Minutes of February ~, 1996
Minutes of February ~, 1996 were approved and adopted
3. Joint WEDC/BIAC Meeting
This meeting is scheduled for Thursday, April 18, 1996 at the Sports Complex, in
Waterloo. The joint meeting was initially called to discuss a strategic plan for Canada's
Technology Triangle. Guelph and Cambridge will also be asked to be represented at this
joint meeting. Other items for discussion with the municipahties could include compa~qng
land pricing and development charges
Discussion then centred around land pricing and how difficult it is to obtain detailed
inlbrmation such as which municipality has full services, which doesn't and how
development charges are affected in the sale of indust~qal lan&
Economic Development Division
March 51, 1996.
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Valerie Gibaut stated that she had been asked to consider increasing the land prices in
Huron Business Park to $95-100,000 per acre. She felt that the market has not quite risen to
those prices yet and quoted the last sales at $78,000 and $85,000 per acre. Plqvate sector sales
were being negotiated even lower between $65-70,000 per acre. Valerie pointed out that in
today's market it was necessary to negotiate price, unlike the past when the City's price was
fh~n~ The committee agreed that there did not appear to be enough demand for land to
support a price increase. It was suggested however that the price could include development
charge~
It was agreed that staff would consider alternative ways of marketing the land and prepare a
report for the May meeting.
Jane Jantzi discussed the One Stop approach which the city's Continuous Improvement
Committee k prepa~qng. When in place the idea k to have, no matter where in City Hall you
enquire, a full package on development in the City as it pertains to site plan approval to the
actual building per, nit and all costs associated to be paid with one cheque.
The City of Kitchener has less than 74 acres of indust~qal land left in inventory.
Susan McConneH left the meeting
4. Economic Development Activities
a) Staff discussed a potential land sale in caucus with Committee.
Moved by Carl Zehr
Seconded by Jeff Morris
That the Business and Industry Advisory Committee support City Staff to sell
Part 13 and Part 14, Reference Plan 58R-5840 having an area of about 3.36
acres on McBrine Drive at no less than $80,000 per acre for a total purchase
price of $~68,800.
Carried
Economic Development Division
March 51, 1996.
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5. Other Business
John Bingeman made reference to an article in Kitchener This Week which
Councillor Berry Vrbanovic k explo~qng with respect to user fees for Automatic
Bank Tellers (ATS~s) machine~ The City of Sarnia k charging the financial
institutions $L000. per machine. There are costs associated with the maintenance
and policing of these machines and for those not located on bank property, no
business taxes are being pai& ~V[r. Bingeman dist~qbuted a report from the Ministry
of Municipal Affahs and Housing dated January 18, 1996 entitled A~end~ents
will clarify intent o£ Bil126
Meeting adjourned 1:05 pm
Next Meeting:
Thursday, April 18, 1996
11:00 am - 1:00 pm
Waterloo Recreation Complex
100 Father David Bauer Drive, Lions Room
Waterloo, ON N~J 4A8
Economic Development Division
March 51, 1996.