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COMMITTEE OF ADJUSTMENT
FOP, THE
CITY OF KITCHENER
MINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING HELD JANUARY 26, 1999
MEMBER PRESENT: Messrs. S. Kay, P. Kruse and A. Galloway.
OFFICIALS PRESENT:
Ms. J. Given, Senior Planner and Ms. D. H. Gilchrist,
Secretary-Treasurer.
Mr. S. Kay, Vice-Chair, called the meeting to order at 10:05 a.m.
This meeting of the Committee of Adjustment as a Standing Committee of City Council
was called to consider applications regarding variances to Chapter 680 of the City of
Kitchener Municipal Code. The Committee will not make a decision on this application
but rather will make a recommendation which will be forwarded to Committee of the
Whole and Council for final decision.
The Chairman explained that this Committee's decision with respect to sign variances is
a recommendation to City Council and not a final decision. He advised that the
Committee's recommendations will be forwarded to City Council on Monday February 1,
1999 at 7:00 p.m. and they may appear at the meeting if they wish.
APPLICATIONS
Submission No. S 1/99 - Eiwo Canadian Management Co. Ltd., 385 Frederick
Street, Kitchener, Ontario
Re:
Part Lot 9, Sub. Lot 3, German Company Tract and Part Lot X, Registered Plan
414, 385 Frederick Street, Kitchener, Ontario.
Appearances:
In Support:
Mr. J. Hennebry
National Sign and Awning Group
2880 King Street East
Suite D
Kitchener, Ontario
Contra: None
Written Submissions:
In Support: None
Contra: None
The Committee was advised the applicant is requesting legalization of an existing pylon
sign having a height of 8.84 m (29.01 ft.) rather than the permitted 7.5 m (24.61 ft.).
The Committee noted the comments of the Department of Business and Planning
Services in which they advised that the applicant is requesting legalization of an existing
pylon sign having a height of 8.84 m rather than the permitted 7.5 m. It is noted that the
sign drawings submitted with the application reflect a sign height of 9 m, and the
application should be amended accordingly.
Submission No. S 1/99,(Cont'd)
The application comes before the Committee as a result of a sign permit application to
refurbish an existing pylon sign at Frederick Street Mall. Upon review of the sign
drawings, it was determined that the existing sign exceeds the Sign By-law maximum
height of 7.5 m. A sign permit was issued to erect a pole sign at the plaza on October
3, 1979. Although the sign drawings submitted and approved at that time cannot be
located by staff, the maximum height allowed by the Sign By-law at that time was 25
feet (7.62 m). It would appear that the existing sign was erected in 1979 or modified at
a later date in contravention of the height restriction.
The intent of the maximum sign height regulation is to limit signs to a reasonable size
allowing for business identification and promotion, while not creating an adverse visual
impact. Although the subject sign is 1.5 m greater than the permitted height, it is set
back over 23 m from the property line on the 4.06 ha (10.3 acre) parcel of land, and
thus is not out of character for the property. The plaza property is bounded by a
combination of institutional, park, commercial and residential lands; the sign is most
visible across Edna Street, which contains commercial uses.
The existing sign meets all other requirements of the current Sign By-law and the
applicant wishes to retain the existing height in order to maintain visibility from the
Conestoga Expressway. Staff have confirmed that Ministry of Transportation staff do
not have any concerns with the sign. The sign has existed without concern or
complaint for a number of years.
Based on the above comments, it is the opinion of staff that the requested variance is
minor in nature, is in keeping with the appropriate development of the property, and
meets the general intent of the Sign By-law.
The Department of Business and Planning Services recommends approval of the
variance to legalize the existing sign height as shown on the drawings submitted with
the application.
The Committee noted the comments of the Director of Building in which he advised that
any sign exceeding 7.5 metres in height shall be designated by a professional engineer.
The Committee noted the comments of the Traffic & Parking Division in which they
advised that they have no concerns with this application.
The Committee noted the comments of the Regional Municipality of Waterloo in which
they advised that they have no concerns with this application.
The Committee noted the comments of the Ministry of Transportation in which they
advised that the Ministry does not anticipate a problem with the highway system as a
result of this application, provided said sign is not visible from Highway #7, as
anticipated. Ministry permits are not required.
At the request of Mr. Hennebry, the Committee agreed to consider an amendment to
the application, as identified by staff.
A brief discussion took place concerning the Ministry of Transportation comments.
Moved by Mr. P. Kruse
Seconded by Mr. A. Galloway
That the application of Eiwo Canadian Management Co. Ltd. requesting legalization of
an existing pylon sign having a height of 9 m (29.53 ft.) rather than the permitted 7.5 m
(24.61 ft.) on Part Lot 9, Sub. Lot 3, German Company Tract and Part Lot X, Registered
Plan 414, 385 Frederick Street, Kitchener, Ontario BE APPROVED, subject to the
following condition:
Submission No. S 1/99,(Cont'd)
1. That the variance as approved in this application shall apply to the sign as shown
on the drawings submitted with the application.
It is the opinion of this Committee that:
1. The variance approved in this application is minor in nature.
2. This application is desirable for the appropriate development of the property.
3. The general intent and purpose of the City of Kitchener Municipal Code Chapter
680 (Signs) is being maintained on the subject property.
Carried
2. Submission No. S 2/99 - Beaconridge Development Inc., 300-80 Tiverton Court,
Markham, Ontario
Re: Lot 1, Registered Plan 1745, 130-170 Gateway park Drive, Kitchener, Ontario.
Appearances:
In Support:
Mr. B. Toderian
171 Victoria Street North
Kitchener, Ontario
Mr. R. Eadie
Beaconridge Development Inc.
300-80 Tiverton Court
Markham, Ontario
Contra:
Mr. R. McColl
22 Edgehill Drive
Kitchener, Ontario
Mr. P. Vanderwerff
24 Marquette Drive
Kitchener, Ontario
Written Submissions:
In Support: None
Contra: None
The Committee was advised the applicant is requesting permission to erect a pylon sign
having a height of 10.1 m (33.14 ft.) rather than the permitted 7.5 m (24.61 ft.) and an
area of 42 m2 (452.1 sq. ft.) rather than the permitted 20 m2 (215.29 sq. ft.).
The Committee considered the comments of the Department of business and Planning
Services in which they advised the applicant is requesting permission to erect a pylon
sign having a height of 10.1 m (33.1 ft.) rather than the permitted 7.5 m (24.6 ft.), an
area of 42 m~ (452.1 sq. ft.) rather than the permitted 20 m~ (215.3 sq. ft.). The
applicant has stated that the sign is unique in nature due to its direct association and
orientation to Highway 8, and that the large size is required in order to provide visibility.
The sign would be located at the rear of the property, between two existing buildings.
The intent of the regulations for maximum sign height and area is to limit signs to a
reasonable size allowing for business identification and promotion, while not creating an
adverse visual impact. While the variances requested seem substantial, the proposed
sign height and area are not out of scale relative to the 4 ha (10.6 ac.) property. The
Submission No. S 2/99,(Cont'd)
sign would not appear to have an adverse visual impact when viewed from Gateway
Park Drive, as it will be located at the rear lot line, and will be one-sided, with content
facing Highway 8 only.
As there is a surplus of parking on the site, staff have no concerns with the removal of
one or two parking spaces, as estimated by Traffic Division staff, to accommodate the
sign. Traffic Division staff note that depending on the orientation of the sign, the drive
aisle may be compromised by the pole of the sign. The applicant should ensure that the
location of the sign pole does not block traffic.
Ministry of Transportation staff have advised a sign permit is required for the sign, and
that it must be located 3 m (10 ft.) from the lot line, which exceeds the City's
requirement of a .4 m (16 inch) setback. A sign permit from the City of Kitchener is also
required.
Based on the above comments, it is the opinion of staff that the requested variances for
sign height and sign area are minor in nature and meet the general intent of the Sign
By-law.
The Department of Business and Planning Services recommends approval of the
variances as shown on the drawings submitted with the application.
The Committee noted the comments of the Regional Municipality of Waterloo in which
they advised that they have no concerns with this application.
The Committee noted the comments of the Ministry of Transportation in which they
advised they have some concerns with the way this application has been presented, as
the proposed sign is not located on the individual lot where the business is taking place.
The Ministry will not issue permits for a sign at this location. However, if the sign was
relocated onto the site where the business is taking place, the Ministry would have no
objection to the height of size changes indicated in this application and Ministry permits
will be available.
The Ministry will not permit the removal of any trees from the Highway #8 right-
of-way to accommodate said sign.
2. The minimum commercial setback is 13.7 metres behind property line.
Building & Land Use and Sign permits are required from the Ministry prior to the
commencement of any grading or construction.
The Committee considered the comments of the Director of Building in which he
advised that any sign exceeding 7.5 m in height shall be designed by a professional
engineer.
Mr. Toderian advised the Committee that he had reviewed the written comments and
was in agreement with them. He then reviewed the required in the application. Noting
the comments of the Director of Building, Mr. Toderian advised that the sign will be
designed by a professional engineer and the drawings will be stamped.
Mr. Toderian then distributed copies of a section of the site plan showing the orientation
of the sign. He stated that the sign is unique in nature. He advised that originally,
when Sears negotiated for the site, the sign was the most important thing. Visibility
from the highway was important. The Ministry of Transportation has been adamant that
no trees will be removed. A great deal of thought has gone into the sign and it will be
oriented only towards Highway 8. He advised that the Ministry comments state that
they have no objection to the sign.
Submission No. S 2/99,(Cont'd)
Mr. P. Kruse referred to a comment in the Ministry's letter that the sign is not located on
the lot where the business is taking place. Mr. Toderian referred to the site plan
submitted with the application. He noted that the sign will be located between two
buildings. He advised that 130-170 Gateway Park Drive is 1 lot and the sign will be
located on the same lot where the use is taking place. He noted that he would have to
clarify this with the Ministry.
Mr. A Galloway commented on the Ministry's requirement for a 13.7 m setback. Mr.
Toderian advised that the Ministry had advised him that their setback requirement was 3
m, and the sign had been located accordingly, on the site plan. He advised that he
would contact the Ministry and clarify this requirement.
Mr. Kruse advised of his concern that, if the Committee approves this application, they
would be seen as trying to usurp the Ministry's authority. Mr. Toderian pointed out that
the location of the sign is not in question in this application. The Committee's decision
concerning the enlargement of the sign does not affect the location. Ms. J. Given
pointed out that there is a relationship between the size of the sign and the location; as
a different location may make the size inappropriate. Mr. Kruse then noted that the
Committee's decision will be based on location. If the Committee approves the
application and the Ministry requires that the sign be moved, the applicant may not have
the City's approval. Mr. Toderian responded that, if the decision is conditional on the
Ministry's approval of the location, he could clarify that for Council on Monday night.
Mr. Kay questioned the City's required setback and Ms. Given advised that the Sign By-
law requires a 0.4 m (16 inch) setback.
Mr. Vanderwerff addressed the Committee on behalf of the Pinegrove Neighbourhood
Association. He stated that it was his opinion that the variance is not minor. He noted
that the sign drawing indicates that the lighting will be high output and questioned
whether this will affect other properties. Mr. Vanderwerff then referred to the Famous
Players sign variance, which was refused. He stated that the Committee should
administer the Sign By-law fairly.
Mr. Vanderwerff referred to the comments of Business & Planning Services. He was
concerned that the sign will be seen from Highway 8. He raised concerns that Highway
8 will look like highways in the United States.
Mr. R. McColl addressed the Committee noting the current request is for a sign 150%
higher than the by-law permits and 210% larger in area. He felt that this was not a
minor variance. He referred to an application for Famous Players, previously refused
by this Committee and Council.
Mr. McColl then advised that he was of the opinion that the proposed sign was in
conflict with the development policy of the highway bypass. He noted that there is
densely wooded buffer zone along the bypass.
Mr. McColl then referred to the Business & Planning Services comments stating that
there is a surplus of parking on the site. Mr. McColl was of the opinion that the existing
parking is only 50% of what is actually required.
Mr. McColl stated that if this sign is approved, it leaves it open for all of the big box
stores in this area to apply for sign variances.
Mr. Toderian advised of the uses in the four buildings on the site, noting that building A
is not occupied yet because of signage. He noted that building A is completely
screened from Highway 8. He also noted that the proposed sign would be a t least 300
ft. from the highway edge.
Mr. P. Kruse then questioned staff concerning the Famous Players sign variance. Ms.
Given replies that the impact was quite different and the Famous Players sign had a
greater impact on the residential properties across King Street. She noted that this
proposed sign is more than 100 m from King Street. She noted that the view would
Submission No. S 2/99,(Cont'd)
also be quite different, as the sign will not have copy facing King Street. Mr. Kruse then
noted that he had been on the panel which had refused the request of Famous Players
for the sign variance and it was his remembrance that the reason for the recommended
refusal was the impact that the Famous Players sign would have on the residential
properties across King Street. He felt that this application was different in that it had a
greater distance from the residential properties across King Street and they would not
be affected as they would have been with the Famous Players sign.
Mr. McColl stated that Mr. Kruse was correct in his remembrance about the Famous
Players sign. Mr. McColl then noted that there is a massive development of
commercial property in this area and that the neighbourhood is concerned that a
process exists where the Commercial and Residential properties can get along. It was
the opinion of the residents in this area that the bylaws are that method.
Mr. B. Toderian addressed the Committee advising that this sign is specific to the nature
of the site and that he did not see a proliferation of signs being proposed for this
property. He noted that this one building would contain the anchor tenant for the site
and that it does not feed off the other uses in the area. He stated that it is important for
the anchor property to have visibility and that the other businesses in the area gain
customers from the anchor business.
Mr. P. Kruse put forward a motion to recommend to Council that this application be
approved. He stated that the Committee is trying to work the best possible path it can
and that this application is different from the Famous Players Application in that the
lighting impact on the residential properties is different. He stated that he had listed to
all submissions made today and taking all matters into consideration he felt that the
application should be approved.
Mr. A. Galloway stated that he felt that this application was different than the previous
one and that the impact of this sign on the residential property would be different than
the Famous Players sign.
Mr. S. Kay advised that he was in support of this motion. He advised the applicants
that he would not be in support of a proliferation of signs in this area. He stated that he
felt that this situation was unique and that the sign would be facing the highway only.
Moved by Mr. P. Kruse
Seconded by Mr. A. Galloway
That the application of Beaconridge Development Inc. requesting permission to erect a
pylon sign having a height of 10.1 m (33.14 ft.) rather than the permitted 7.5 m (24.61
ft.) and an area of 42 m2 (452.1 sq. ft.) rather than the permitted 20 m2 (215.29 sq. ft.)
on Lot 1, Registered Plan 1745, 130-170 Gateway Park Drive, Kitchener, Ontario BE
APPROVED, subject to the following condition:
That the variances as approved in this application shall apply to the sign as
shown in the drawing submitted with this application, in the location generally as
shown on the site plan submitted with this application.
It is the opinion of this Committee that:
1. The variances approved in this application are minor in nature.
2. This application is desirable for the appropriate development of the property.
The general intent and purpose of the City of Kitchener Municipal Code Chapter
680 (Signs) is being maintained on the subject property.
Carried
ADJOURNED
On Motion, the meeting adjourned at 10:50 a.m.
Dated at the City of Kitchener this 26th day of January 1999.