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KITCHENER DOWNTOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES
MAY 13, 1999
The Kitchener Downtown Advisory Committee met this date under the Chairmanship of
Councillor Mark Yantzi with the following members present: Councillor Karen Taylor-
Harrison, Howard Marr, Nancy Brawley, Anita Petsche Good, Peggy Walshe, Mary
Drandzyk, David Gowland, Denise Shelbourne, Peter Walberg, Trudy Beaulne, Mike
Peng, Howard Rotberg, and Arli Klassen.
Others Present:
Brock Stanley, Debbie Schlichter, Terry Boutilier, Jim Nelson and
David Corks.
Regrets:
Mayor Carl Zehr, Councillor Berry Vrbanovic, Denise Strong, Tom
Brennand, Mary Coleman, Ruth Tomlinson, Regis Coladipietro,
Greg Kett, Neil Carver, Brian Scott, and Staff Sgt. Gary Askin.
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA- MAY 13, 1999
The Agenda for the May 13th meeting was approved with the following addition:
BPS 99/72 Staff Report - Progress of the Downtown Furniture and Fixture
Review Working Group, and recommendations for the acquisition of additional
waste containers.
Moved by: Mary Drandzyk
Seconded by: Nancy Brawley
2. APPROVAL OF MINUTES -APRIL 8, 1999
It was moved that the minutes of the April 8, 1999 meeting be approved.
Moved by: Mary Drandzyk
Seconded by: Nancy Brawley
CARRIED
CARRIED
3. OASIS UPDATE
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Nothing further to report. It was felt that the two sub-committee meetings were very
successful and informative.
4. DISTANCE SEPARATION FOR HOSTELS, GROUP HOMES, LODGING
HOUSES, ETC IN THE DOWNTOWN
Lodging houses are a permitted use in the downtown. In the R5 zone (Residential
Zone) lodging houses are permitted but there is a 400 metre distancing separation.
This distancing separation does not apply to the downtown. The committee would like
to recommend that this distancing separation also apply to the downtown. They would
also like to see some conditions put on the licensing of lodging houses to give the City
more control.
The following motion was put on the floor:
That the Department of Business and Planning Services be requested to prepare
a report to look at the planning, zoning and administrative issues and implications
involved in implementing a distance separation for lodging houses presently
permitted in the downtown and the opportunities and challenges that go along
with it.
Moved by: David Gowland
Seconded by: Howard Marr
CARRIED
It was recommended that this be dealt with at the next Planning Committee on Tuesday,
May 25, 1999.
5. BPS 99/72 STAFF REPORT
Terry Boutilier attended the meeting to review the above report on the progress of the
Downtown Furniture and Fixture Review Working Group. This review was generated
from the 1995 Mayor's Task Force Report and the KDBA Retail Action Plan. A working
group was established to look at all the different furniture and fixtures that contribute to
the clutter downtown.
The first thing they dealt with was garbage containers. There are 11 different styles of
garbage containers being used at the present time. Terry provided display boards
showing pictures of the different types and their placement on the street. There are
advantages and disadvantages of the different containers.
The working group has narrowed the containers down to 3 different types.
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· The first is a light green waste container that will be used in Civic Square.
They match existing outdoor furnishings already in place. They will also be
used along Gaukel Street connecting City Hall with Victoria Park.
· The second is to continue to use the black cast aluminum container along
King Street. They are very durable and match tree guards, grates, bike racks,
lamp posts, etc.
· The third will be used throughout the balance of downtown. Terry had a
sample of the container at the meeting. It is a new style made from recycled
plastic, reasonably priced, durable, fire proof and is locally made.
Trudy suggested that there is a need for some kind of recycling containers in the
downtown. This has been tried in the past and it has been found that the recycling bins
are used for garbage not just recycling. The committee felt there was a need for well
defined recycling bins. Terry was asked to contact the manufacturer to see if they could
supply a recycling container similar to the waste container, possibly a two-in-one unit.
Terry asked the committee for their acceptance of the two recommendations stated in
the report:
2.1
That BPS Report 99~72, outlining the progress of the Downtown Furniture
and Fixture Review Working Group be received for information.
2.2
That Staff be directed to acquire, through the City Purchasing Division, 60
replacement waste containers for the Downtown at an upset limit of
$15,000 to be financed from Account 715046.
The committee was in favour of accepting the report with the understanding that Terry
Boutilier will contact the manufacturer and discuss with them the possibility of
developing a similar container for recycling purposes.
Moved by: Karen Taylor-Harrison
Seconded by: Howard Marr
CARRIED
David Gowland asked Terry if there were any plans to control postering downtown.
They are becoming hard to remove as they are being applied with glue rather than with
tape as in the past. David Corks informed the committee that there are new postering
regulations. The posters are marked for removal. Public Works removes the posters at
$60 per poster which is charged to the owner of the poster. Three buildings were
mentioned that need to be addressed: Masters Furniture, Full Circle Foods, and the
building beside Canada Trust.
David Gowland also mentioned that the new "white" lighting on King Street is a great
improvement.
6. APPROACH TO UNDERTAKING DEMOGRAPHIC STUDY OF WHO LIVES IN
THE DOWNTOWN CORE
Arli pointed out that The Strategic Action Plan, #5 - Conduct a detailed demographic
and housing study in the Downtown core, mentions that the Social Planning Council is
the lead player. This looks like a good idea, but how will the City help with it.
Brock pointed out that this was one of the objectives they felt should be included when
they developed the plan. We don't have a good handle on who actually lives downtown.
We have incomplete census data for the downtown. We have good healthy statistics for
the area surrounding the core, but we need stats for the immediate downtown core. The
original study was going to be undertaken under Sybil's direction. Arli questioned,
where do we go from here? Brock suggested that with the assistance of the Social
Planning Council the City put together a group to undertake the study. The Social
Planning Council does not have the resources, but they would like to assist the City. It
was felt that the City and the Social Planning Council should partner together to conduct
the study. Trudy mentioned that the Inter-Community Health Centre group would be
another interested player.
Howard Marr questioned what is the purpose of doing the study? What do we want to
achieve? Another study could scare people away -"downtown is full of poor, needy
people". There are fragile individuals all over the City not just downtown. We need to
give some thought to what we want to do with the data. We need to do some
brainstorming. This is not a "needy" study, but a study to see who is living here. Who is
our market, how do we approach them? Our mandate is downtown not City wide.
Debbie commented that we have assumptions about who lives downtown. We assume
they are poor, needy, transient people. Is this true? They are not necessarily as
transient as we assume. We should test our current assumptions against the current
reality. This kind of study would give us a more accurate picture.
Brock would like to check with Sybil to find out what the original objectives for the study
were.
7. UPDATES
David informed the committee that there has been a lot of interest in developing housing
downtown. Most of the interest is coming from developers from out of town. We should
see some major developments soon. The waiving of development charges downtown is
a large saving for developing downtown rather than the suburbs.
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Nancy reviewed some of the upcoming events happening downtown over the next few
months. She informed the committee that a code of conduct has been prepared for
bars/nightclubs downtown. The goal is to have these posted in every licensed
establishment. Denise mentioned that she hasn't seen any signs in the Capital Theatre
window indicating that they have applied for a liquor license. The sign is supposed to
be displayed for one month. Nancy will let Lisa Pasternak know.
(Nancy's written report is attached for further information).
Brock informed the committee that #58 of the Strategic Action Plan regarding safety at
the bus terminal has been addressed. Management Committee is preparing a report to
Finance & Admin Committee to add additional security at the bus terminal. There will
be 2 security officers at the terminal from 2:30-12:00 during the week; and two full time
security officers on weekends.
It was suggested that a grid of the Strategic Action Plan be developed to show what has
taken place, what is happening and the progress.
David Gowland saw an idea while in Toronto that he felt would go over quite well in
Kitchener - concrete chess/backgammon tables. He thought this would be a good idea
for outside City Hall or in Victoria Park. Mark mentioned that he has had several
conversations with staff who are interested in the idea. The rest of the committee felt it
was an excellent idea as well. It would be a good Y2K project. David Gowland is willing
to pursue it further and find out more about it.
The following recommendation was made:
That David Corks contact Facilities Management to pursue the idea of chess
tables in City Hall square.
Recommended by: Howard Rotberg
Seconded by: Nancy Brawley
CARRIED
Nancy received a copy of an unsigned letter addressed to the Mayor requesting that the
City put a stop to the marches that are taking place downtown. She has already met
with the group and they basically said that they will do what they want to do. Mark
commented that there have been ongoing discussions and there is an agreement that
when an event is taking place in Civic Square, they will move to another location. The
committee was concerned that this was only a verbal agreement and that they might
use the events as an opportunity to get their message out to more people. Trudy feels
uncomfortable sending a request from the committee to stop the marches - it could be
explosive. Mary asked if it was possible for the City to set some guidelines for the use
of Civic Square?
The protesters are marching to Speakers Corner because of the symbolic aspect. What
is the purpose of Speakers Corner now that we have Civic Square? Do we need it?
There has been some discussion on revamping the area. The hotel patrons are
complaining about the noise from the protesters. Perhaps there could be a limitation on
the amplification system used. Mark will convey the concerns of the committee to the
Mayor.
8. NEIGHBOURHOOD UPDATES
Peter Walberg has been working with the Central Frederick NA to establish a bulletin
board between communities. The bulletin board would be for information exchange,
newsletters, etc. It is a good way of getting discussions going. Parks & Rec is very
interested. Any other NA interested in taking part in the pilot group, please speak to
Peter. Arli mentioned that there is a group working on a Region wide bulletin board
called "Capacitynet".
David Gowland mentioned at the last meeting that the east end was having problems
with prostitutes again now that the nicer weather is here. They contacted the police and
the problem was eliminated in about 3 days. This was very encouraging. The police
also provided them with a phone number for "Dial Up Drug Deals" that they can use
when they see drug deals taking place.
The Cedar Hill NA is having their annual Perennial Plant Exchange this Saturday, May
15th. Their annual Folk Festival is scheduled for July 10th (rain date of July 11th). They
are looking for vendors.
The Mount Hope-Breithaupt Park NA continues to have problems with access to
available space. They are loosing their space at Sacred Heart School. They are
costing out alternatives. They are continuing their discussions and process for the
Safety Audit for the Louisa/Ahrens area. Their "Babysitters Club" is holding an open
house to market themselves. The "Growing Up Downtown" group will be approaching
the KDBA on how they can bring more families downtown to "Tooney Tuesdays". City
Hall came out good in the child/family friendliness study, but there is still the need for
change tables. The "Healthy Communities Forum" will be held on June 10th.
Arli Klassen informed the committee that the Town Hall meeting originally scheduled for
May 19th has been changed June 22nd. The meeting will be held at Zion United Church
at 7:00 pm. The topic of the meeting is "Supporting Families with Children Ages 0-6".
9. BACKGROUND & FUTURE USE OF ORIGINAL ClT¥CONCEPT
The Original City concept was developed as a marketing tool for the downtown.
Banners will be installed downtown by the end of May using different colour
combinations and different icons. Other promotional materials that are being looked at
are balloons, key chains, earrings, umbrellas, mouse pads, and shopping bags. If the
committee has any other ideas, please pass them on to Nancy. Downtown This Month
has a feature article on the Original City. It explains what the graphics mean and why
we chose it.
Trudy asked who is able to use the graphics. Anything that is happening downtown, or
any neighbourhood event that is taking place downtown can use the graphics. Nancy
hopes to have the graphics available on the internet soon, but it is currently available on
disc. The KDBA and DDT are still struggling with all the guidelines for its use. Peter
suggested that the KDBA hold an open house explaining how the concept can be used
and by whom.
The meeting adjourned at 10:50
Carol Robinson, Committee Secretary
LIST OF ATTACHMENTS
1. KDBA Report