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HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Kitchener - 1998-04-03H E RI TAG E\1998 -04-03 HERITAGE KITCHENER MINUTES (LOCAL ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES) APRIL 3, 1998 CITY OF KITCHENER Heritage Kitchener (L.A.C.A.C.) met this date, under the Chairmanship of Councillor J. Haalboom, commencing at 12:05 p.m., with the following members present: Councillor T. Galloway, Ms. S. Campbell, Ms. P. Wagner and Messrs. P. Bufe, R. Coo, G. Grimes, E. Lucy and D. Pullen. Ms. C. Martindale entered the meeting shortly after its commencement. REGRETS: Ms. T. Seedhouse OTHERS PRESENT: Ms. S. Barber, Mr. L. Bensason and Ms. D. Gilchrist DELEGATION - VICTORIA PARK PAVILLION DOORS Mr. R. Nuhn, Facilities Management and Mr. G. Collins, Supervisor of Arenas, were in attendance to explain the need to replace the French Doors on the Victoria Park Pavillion. Slides of the building were shown. Messrs. Nuhn and Collins explained that shutters must be placed on the insides of the windows during the winter months in order to keep out the cold. Without these shutters, the heating costs are astronomical. This makes the building difficult to rent in the winter. If the building is rented during the winter months, and the renter wants to be able to see outside, they must pay the cost of having the shutters removed and replaced. Mr. V. Starchuk, the consultant for the owner, was in attendance to present the Committee with specifications on possible replacement doors. Mr. Starchuk explained that the City has had problems with vandalism at the pavillion. He stated that much of the existing glass is not original. Mr. Starchuk circulated photographs of the existing doors to show their current condition. Mr. Starchuk then distributed sketches of two possible replacement doors; one with 15 lights and the other with one pane of glass having wooden grills laminated to each side of the glass. Each option would have a new frame with built-in weather stripping. Mr. Starchuck advised that he preferred the option of the single pane of glass; as it would be possible to have the same vertical dimension as the original door. He felt it would be a good alternative, maintaining the asthetics of the original door and would give the owner what he wants in the way of eliminating air infiltration. The Committee then debated the benefits of new doors verses refurbishing the existing doors. Mr. R. Coo stated that he would be willing to sacrifice the original doors to have the building used. He put forward a motion to that effect. Mr. E. Lucy asked for clarification as to how the usage of the building would change if better doors were installed. Mr. Nuhn advised that the building could be used 12 months of the year if better doors were installed. On motion be Mr. R. Coo it was resolved: "That Heritage Kitchener supports the request of the owner to replace the French doors on the Victoria Park Pavillion, 80 Schneider Avenue, with wooden doors which would retain the heritage integrity of the original doors." LAURENTIAN WEST COMMUNITY PLAN The Committee members were provided with copies of Department of Planning & Development Staff Report PD 98/17, concerning Draft Plan of Subdivision 30T-95015 - Laurentian Forest, which was to be considered by Planning & Economic Development Committee on April 6, 1998. Mr. L. Masseo, Intermediate Planner, was in attendance to present the report. Councillor J. Haalboom advised that Ms. P. Wagner had been Heritage Kitcheners representative on the technical study team and has done a lot of work in this regard. Mr. L. Masseo identified the area in which this subdivision will be located. He advised that 1,700 dwelling units can be accomodated. He stated that there are no identified Heritage Resources in HERITAGE KITCHENER FEBRUARY 6, 1998 -8- CITY OF KITCHENER the area; however, there are natural resources, such as hedgerose, woodlots and wetlands. The Plan of Subdivision will maintain these natural features. Mr. Masseo advised that the theme for street names is endangered animals and plants. He also advised that heritage names have been chosen for the three main roads in the subdivision. Ms. P. Wagner questioned the courdoroy road under Bleams Road. Mr. Masseo advised that the applicant submitted an archelogical study in 1995; which was submitted to the Ministry and nothing more was required. Ms. P. Wagner then referred to two other archelogical sites in the area, questionning whether archelogical studies are being done there. She questioned whether all resources were adequately addressed. Mr. Masseo suggested that either Councillor J. Haalboom or Councillor T. Galloway could raise the matter at Planning Committee on April 6. The applicant could be required to review the archelogical survey to see what it contains. Councillor T. Galloway noted that Heritage Kitchener could recommend names for the park and a plaque could be erected in the park. Ms. P. Wagner recommended that the park be named either David Bergey Park or Helena Feasby Park. Concern was also raised at to whether the archeological study had considered the sites noted by Ms. P. Wagner. On motion by Ms. P. Wagner it was resolved: "That Heritage Kitchener recommends the parkland, identified as Block 30, Stage 1, draft plan of subdivision 30T-95015 be named either David Bergey or Helena Feasby Park; and further That, prior to final approval of draft plan of subdivision 30T-95015 by City Council, would be demonstated that the existing archeological study has adequately addressed the know heritage features, such as 1824 Bleams Road, those across from 1643 Bleams Road and the courdoroy road; and further That, should the existing archeological study not adequately address the known heritage feature; additional conditions be imposed by Council to evaluate these prior to any grading of the respective stage of the subdivison." HERITAGE DESIGNATION PLAQUES Mr. L. Bensason advised that there are some designated properties in the City which have never received their plaques. He suggested that they be erected for Heritage Week along with the Mike Wagner Awards. Councillor J. Haalboom suggested having a designation ceremony and Ms. T. Seedhouse volunteered to work on that with the assistance of Mr. M. Badran. ARCHAEOLOGICAL MASTER PLAN The Committee members were each provided with copies of a letter from Mr. G. Grimes along with a Planning Schedule Proposal for a Kitchener Archaeological Master Plan. Mr. Grimes addressed the Committee advising that, since preparing the proposal, he has had an opportunity to review the Region's Plan, which has been done in a grid. He advised that the Region's plan allows their planners to ask for an assessment on a property prior to development taking place. Mr. Grimes advised that, since 1995, there has been no archaeologist on staff at the Region and the Plan has not been updated since that time. Mr. Grimes stated that there is a lot of information about Kitchener in the Plan; the only key area for Kitchener would be within the pre-1900 boundary and he explained what would be required. HERITAGE KITCHENER FEBRUARY 6, 1998 -9- CITY OF KITCHENER It was Mr. Grimes's opinion that administering an Archaeological Master Plan from the City adds another layer of bureaucracy. He felt the Committee needed to decide what it wants an archaeological master plan to do. Do we want it for information's sake or do we want it to give to the Region? Do we want to administer it ourselves? Do we want to add to the Region's Plan and not do a plan of our own? Mr. Grimes explained that the Region's Master Plan doesn't show sites discovered prior to 1970. He advised that prior to 1970, avocational archaeologists did most of the work. A discussion then took place over jurisdictional control and it was noted that the Region's authority in this regard comes from The Planning Act. Mr. L. Bensason advised that the City's official plan has provision for a heritage master plan and suggested including archaeology in that plan. Mr. D. Pullen suggested adding an archaeological component to all future Heritage Conservation District plans. Councillor T. Galloway advised that he was in favour of all the suggestions but that the Committee can't ignore the jurisdictional control. He pointed out that the City would be doing work which would have to be handed over. We would have to ask the Region to administer it in a fashion we would like to see. Councillor T. Galloway stated that we either have to have jurisdiction or an agreement with the Region to administer it in our interest. He noted that the City is not likely to put money into something they have not control over. Councillor Galloway suggested that we need senior staff to talk to the Region's senior staff, to determine if the City puts money into an archaeological master plan, the Region would administer it in our best interests or delegate the authority to us. 4. ARCHAEOLOGICAL MASTER PLAN - CONT'D Mr. L. Bensason suggested that if it is included in the heritage master plan, the subdivision process requires an applicant to meet the requirements of the Heritage Master Plan. Mr. G. Grimes suggested that City Planning staff go to the Region and the Ministry and ask if the City can undertake an archaeological master plan. The City should cover the area prior to 1900 which is an incomplete portion of the Region's plan. The Region may be glad to have this information on record and it would be good if the City could have some control over the information. Mr. L. Bensason suggested that this is an area of City where planning applications would never go to the Region, so unless we do the work nothing will be done. Councillor T. Galloway put forward a motion to have the City senior staff discuss the matter with the Region senior staff. Mr. D. Pullen asked for an amendment to the motion to include that an archaeological component be added to all heritage conservation districts. On a motion by Councillor T. Galloway, it was resolved: "That Heritage Kitchener requests that senior staff in the Department of Planning & Development be directed to work with senior staff at the Region of Waterloo to determine, should the City of Kitchener undertake an Archaeologic Master Plan, how the information will be utilized and administered, and further, That an archaeological component be added to all future heritage conservation district plans." 5. PLAN OF SUBDIVISION AND STREET NAMES Mr. L. Bensason advised that a plan of subdivision application has been received for the area of Ottawa/Bleams Road/Fischer Hallman/Trussler Road. He advised that they are looking for suggestions for heritage names for roads in that plan of subdivision. Ms. P. Wagner advised that she had previously given names for this area to Mr. D. Corks. Mr. L. Bensason advised that the City of Kitchener has a number of names on reserve with the Region for streets and the City of Cambridge is requesting the City to forego the use of the name HERITAGE KITCHENER FEBRUARY 6, 1998 -10- CITY OF KITCHENER "HAGEY" as they wish to use it. Ms. P. Wagner advised that it is her understanding that the use of the name "Hagey" was reserved for a street on the West side of the City joining Kitchener and Waterloo and she suggested that staff should investigate this. Councillor T. Galloway advised that the City of Kitchener has the name "MacLennan" on reserve and it used to be used for the name of the street in front of the Doon Public School. This person was the first principal of the public school. He questioned whether we still have it on reserve. Councillor Galloway noted that this road is owned by the school board and is not a public street. Councillor Galloway advised that he had an enquiry from the daughter of this gentleman as to whether the name would be used for a street somewhere in the City of Kitchener; however, because the spelling is so close to that of the name of the former Mayor it was questionable whether both names could be used in the City of Kitchener. It was suggested that the gentleman's first name be used along with the last name to distinguish the two names and to make it easier for emergency services. 6. WATERLOO REGIONAL HERITAGE FOUNDATION AWARD Councillor J. Haalboom read the categories for awards for the Waterloo Regional Heritage Foundation 1998 Awards of Excellence. She noted that the nominations must be submitted by March 13, 1998 and suggested that the Committee must decide at its next meeting whether it will nominate a person or building to receive the award. She asked that if any of the members felt that they had an idea for a nomination that they should bring the background information to the next meeting. 7. CENTRAL FREDERICK NEIGHBOURHOOD EVALUATION SESSIONS Ms. S. Barber displayed slides of each of the buildings contained in the Central Frederick Neighbourhood evaluation session Package "A". A brief discussion took place as to whether these buildings were significant and worth putting on the Heritage Inventory. Mr. P. Bufe suggested looking at these properties as a streetscape and determining whether the streetscape is important. He suggested that the sameness of the buildings gives the street a character of its own. He suggested that this is what was important about old Berlin; it is the effect from the quantity rather than the quality of the individual building. The total impact of rows of houses which are basically the same is a significant aspect of our City's heritage. Mr. G. Grimes stated that Kitchener is known throughout North America for the rows of houses and the streetscapes of homes that are the same. The Committee voted on these buildings and it was agreed that the following buildings be added to the Heritage Inventory. Chapel Street: 11, 13, 17, 21, 37, 41,45, 57, 61 & 67 Samuel Street; 59, 61,65, 67, 71, 81, 87 & 105 Krug Street; 12, 20, 24, 32, 42, 56, 70, 72, 74, 80, 82, 88, 90 & 94 Lancaster Street East; 190, 192, 37 Lancaster Street. Mr. P. Bufe questioned the dating of the houses on the evaluation form. He suggested looking in the Vernon's Directory for houses constructed after 1907 in order to obtain a more accurate date. 8. NEXT MEETING The next regular meeting of Heritage Kitchener is scheduled for March 6, 1998. 9. ADJOURNMENT On motion the meeting adjourned at 2:10 p.m. HERITAGE KITCHENER FEBRUARY 6, 1998 -11 - CITY OF KITCHENER Dianne H. Gilchrist Committee Secretary