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HERITAGE KITCHENER MINUTES
(LOCAL ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES)
FEBRUARY 6, 1998
CITY OF KITCHENER
Heritage Kitchener (L.A.C.A.C.) met this date, under the Chairmanship of Councillor J. Haalboom,
commencing at 12:05 p.m. with the following members present: Councillor T. Galloway, Ms. S. Campbell,
Ms. C. Martindale, Ms. P. Wagner and Messrs. M. Badran, P. Bufe, R. Coo, G. Grimes, E. Lucy and D.
Pullen. Ms. E. Heinrichs and Ms. T. Seedhouse were in attendance for part of the meeting.
OTHERS PRESENT:
Ms. S. Barber, Mr. L. Bensason and Ms.
D. Gilchrist
REGRETS: None
1. HERITAGE WEEK EVENTS
Mr. R. Coo advised that the sign-up sheets for the Heritage Showcase on Saturday February 14,
1998 will be circulated to the Committee members during the meeting. There have been more
requests for space than actual space available so the City of Kitchener will be sharing a space
with the City of Waterloo.
Mr. L. Bensason advised that the ceremony for the Mike Wagner Heritage and Adaptive Re-use
Awards will be held at the Council meeting on Monday February 16, 1998. Mr. Bensason advised
that he has notified the property owners and they are all delighted. He advised that he has been
creating a citation and it will be framed. The bronze plaques have been received. Slides of the
properties will be shown at the Council meeting along with the description of why they were
chosen.
Ms. T. Seedhouse entered the meeting at this time.
Councillor J. Haalboom advised that she has asked Ms. P. Wagner to present the awards.
Councillor J. Haalboom advised that the bus tour has been announced and that press releases
have been circulated to the Toronto papers as well as the local papers. Tickets are available from
Jeannie in the Department of Planning and Development on the 6th floor.
Councillor
perhaps a
Week.
Haalboom advised that she has received a phone call from a realtor who suggests that
open house in the Downtown area could be arranged for next year during Heritage
Ms. P. Wagner advised that the Waterloo Regional Heritage Foundation helped publish Elizabeth
Bloomfield's bibliography and there are 40 copies left at a price of $25.00. She advised that this is
an invaluable resource for new members.
2. CHO CONFERENCE
Councillor J. Haalboom advised that within the next week there will be a mail out of registration
forms for the CHO Conference to take place in Kitchener from May 29 - 31, 1998. She advised
that it looks like there will be a sponsor for the food for the Friday night reception and "Finnegan's
Tongue" will provide the entertainment. Further she advised that awards are to be given to four
properties in this area by the Ministry.
Ms. L. Heinrichs entered the meeting at this time.
Councillor J. Haalboom advised that a sponsor is still needed for the Saturday Banquet, bus and
entertainment at the banquet.
Councillor Haalboom advised that it is up to the CHO to have a workshop on Sunday morning and
it will be followed by the organization's Annual Meeting.
Councillor Haalboom advised that the fee for attending the conference will be $90.00 plus a
$10.00 banquet fee, for early registration. She also advised that they are hoping to have a market
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place from the Saturday noon to Sunday noon.
2. CHO CONFERENCE-CONT'D
Ms. P. Wagner noted that the City of Kitchener costs for set-up and clean-up are quite high and
that the CHO thought it would come free because the City is hosting the Conference.
Mr. L. Bensason advised that there will be 15 top notch speakers and that the CHO Board is very
impressed with the quality of the speakers coming to the conference. Councillor J. Haalboom
briefly reviewed the speakers and the topics they will be speaking on.
3. HERITAGE DESIGNATION PLAQUES
Mr. L. Bensason advised that there are some designated properties in the City which have never
received their plaques. He suggested that they be erected for Heritage Week along with the Mike
Wagner Awards.
Councillor J. Haalboom suggested having a designation ceremony and Ms. T. Seedhouse
volunteered to work on that with the assistance of Mr. M. Badran.
4. ARCHAEOLOGICAL MASTER PLAN
The Committee members were each provided with copies of a letter from Mr. G. Grimes along with
a Planning Schedule Proposal for a Kitchener Archaeological Master Plan. Mr. Grimes
addressed the Committee advising that, since preparing the proposal, he has had an opportunity
to review the Region's Plan, which has been done in a grid. He advised that the Region's plan
allows their planners to ask for an assessment on a property prior to development taking place.
Mr. Grimes advised that, since 1995, there has been no archaeologist on staff at the Region and
the Plan has not been updated since that time.
Mr. Grimes stated that there is a lot of information about Kitchener in the Plan; the only key area
for Kitchener would be within the pre-1900 boundary and he explained what would be required.
It was Mr. Grimes's opinion that administering an Archaeological Master Plan from the City adds
another layer of bureaucracy. He felt the Committee needed to decide what it wants an
archaeological master plan to do. Do we want it for information's sake or do we want it to give to
the Region? Do we want to administer it ourselves? Do we want to add to the Region's Plan and
not do a plan of our own?
Mr. Grimes explained that the Region's Master Plan doesn't show sites discovered prior to 1970.
He advised that prior to 1970, avocational archaeologists did most of the work.
A discussion then took place over jurisdictional control and it was noted that the Region's authority
in this regard comes from The Planning Act. Mr. L. Bensason advised that the City's official plan
has provision for a heritage master plan and suggested including archaeology in that plan.
Mr. D. Pullen suggested adding an archaeological component to all future Heritage Conservation
District plans.
Councillor T. Galloway advised that he was in favour of all the suggestions but that the Committee
can't ignore the jurisdictional control. He pointed out that the City would be doing work which
would have to be handed over. We would have to ask the Region to administer it in a fashion we
would like to see. Councillor T. Galloway stated that we either have to have jurisdiction or an
agreement with the Region to administer it in our interest. He noted that the City is not likely to put
money into something they have not control over. Councillor Galloway suggested that we need
senior staff to talk to the Region's senior staff, to determine if the City puts money into an
archaeological master plan, the Region would administer it in our best interests or delegate the
authority to us.
4. ARCHAEOLOGICAL MASTER PLAN - CONT'D
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Mr. L. Bensason suggested that if it is included in the heritage master plan, the subdivision
process requires an applicant to meet the requirements of the Heritage Master Plan. Mr. G.
Grimes suggested that City Planning staff go to the Region and the Ministry and ask if the City can
undertake an archaeological master plan. The City should cover the area prior to 1900 which is
an incomplete portion of the Region's plan. The Region may be glad to have this information on
record and it would be good if the City could have some control over the information. Mr. L.
Bensason suggested that this is an area of City where planning applications would never go to the
Region, so unless we do the work nothing will be done.
Councillor T. Galloway put forward a motion to have the City senior staff discuss the matter with
the Region senior staff. Mr. D. Pullen asked for an amendment to the motion to include that an
archaeological component be added to all heritage conservation districts.
On a motion by Councillor T. Galloway,
it was resolved:
"That Heritage Kitchener requests that senior staff in the Department of Planning &
Development be directed to work with senior staff at the Region of Waterloo to determine,
should the City of Kitchener undertake an Archaeologic Master Plan, how the information
will be utilized and administered, and further,
That an archaeological component be added to all future heritage conservation district
plans."
5. PLAN OF SUBDIVISION AND STREET NAMES
Mr. L. Bensason advised that a plan of subdivision application has been received for the area of
Ottawa/Bleams Road/Fischer Hallman/Trussler Road. He advised that they are looking for
suggestions for heritage names for roads in that plan of subdivision. Ms. P. Wagner advised that
she had previously given names for this area to Mr. D. Corks.
Mr. L. Bensason advised that the City of Kitchener has a number of names on reserve with the
Region for streets and the City of Cambridge is requesting the City to forego the use of the name
"HAGEY" as they wish to use it. Ms. P. Wagner advised that it is her understanding that the use of
the name "Hagey" was reserved for a street on the West side of the City joining Kitchener and
Waterloo and she suggested that staff should investigate this.
Councillor T. Galloway advised that the City of Kitchener has the name "MacLennan" on reserve
and it used to be used for the name of the street in front of the Doon Public School. This person
was the first principal of the public school. He questioned whether we still have it on reserve.
Councillor Galloway noted that this road is owned by the school board and is not a public street.
Councillor Galloway advised that he had an enquiry from the daughter of this gentleman as to
whether the name would be used for a street somewhere in the City of Kitchener; however,
because the spelling is so close to that of the name of the former Mayor it was questionable
whether both names could be used in the City of Kitchener. It was suggested that the gentleman's
first name be used along with the last name to distinguish the two names and to make it easier for
emergency services.
6. WATERLOO REGIONAL HERITAGE FOUNDATION AWARD
Councillor J. Haalboom read the categories for awards for the Waterloo Regional Heritage
Foundation 1998 Awards of Excellence. She noted that the nominations must be submitted by
March 13, 1998 and suggested that the Committee must decide at its next meeting whether it will
nominate a person or building to receive the award. She asked that if any of the members felt that
they had an idea for a nomination that they should bring the background information to the next
meeting.
7. CENTRAL FREDERICK NEIGHBOURHOOD EVALUATION SESSIONS
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Ms. S. Barber displayed slides of each of the buildings contained in the Central Frederick
Neighbourhood evaluation session Package "A".
A brief discussion took place as to whether these buildings were significant and worth putting on
the Heritage Inventory.
Mr. P. Bufe suggested looking at these properties as a streetscape and determining whether the
streetscape is important. He suggested that the sameness of the buildings gives the street a
character of its own. He suggested that this is what was important about old Berlin; it is the effect
from the quantity rather than the quality of the individual building. The total impact of rows of
houses which are basically the same is a significant aspect of our City's heritage. Mr. G. Grimes
stated that Kitchener is known throughout North America for the rows of houses and the
streetscapes of homes that are the same.
The Committee voted on these buildings and it was agreed that the following buildings be added
to the Heritage Inventory.
Chapel Street: 11, 13, 17, 21, 37, 41,45, 57, 61 & 67
Samuel Street; 59, 61,65, 67, 71, 81, 87 & 105
Krug Street; 12, 20, 24, 32, 42, 56, 70, 72, 74, 80, 82, 88, 90 & 94
Lancaster Street East; 190, 192,
37 Lancaster Street.
Mr. P. Bufe questioned the dating of the houses on the evaluation form. He suggested looking in
the Vernon's Directory for houses constructed after 1907 in order to obtain a more accurate date.
NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of Heritage Kitchener is scheduled for March 6, 1998.
ADJOURNMENT
On motion the meeting adjourned at 2:10 p.m.
Dianne H. Gilchrist
Committee Secretary