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HERITAGE KITCHENER
SEPTEMBER 11, 1998
CITY OF KITCHENER
Heritage Kitchener met this date, commencing at 11:55 a.m. under the Chairmanship of Councillor J.
Haalboom, with the following members present: Ms. S. Campbell, Ms. E. Heinrichs, Ms. P. Wagner, Mr.
M. Badran, Mr. P. Bufe, Mr. R. Coo, Mr. G. Grimes, Mr. E. Lucy and Mr. D. Pullen. Councillor T. Galloway
was in attendance for part of the meeting.
Regrets: Ms. C. Martindale
Others present: Ms. D. Arnold, Messrs. L. Bensason and B. Stanley and Ms. D. Gilchrist.
1. BUILDING EVALUATION SESSION
The Committee members considered various properties on Chapel Street and Samuel Street to be
added to the Heritage inventory. The Committee viewed slides of each property and voted on
each property separately. The Committee, by vote, agreed that the following properties be added
to the Heritage inventory: 85 Chapel Street, 87 Chapel Street, 89 Chapel Street, 91 Chapel
Street, 93 Chapel Street, 101 Chapel Street, 103 Chapel Street, 107 Chapel Street, 56 Samuel
Street, 66 Samuel Street, 70 Samuel Street, 74 Samuel Street, 88 Samuel Street, 92 Samuel
Street, 98 Samuel Street, 108 Samuel Street and 112 Samuel Street.
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Wagner advised that she had asked Mr. Bensason to take slides of 181 Frederick Street,
were shown for the Committee's benefit. She advised of a research undertaken at the
and of the historical significance of this property.
On motion by Ms. P. Wagner
It was resolved:
"That 181 Frederick Street be added to the Heritage inventory."
2. MINUTES
On motion by Ms. P. Wagner
It was resolved:
"That the minutes of the regular meeting of Heritage Kitchener of August 14, 1998, as
mailed to the members be accepted."
Councillor T. Galloway entered the meeting at this time.
3. DELEGATION - PEAK IMAGING
Messrs. K. Smith and C. Holderness of Peak Imaging were in attendance to give a demonstration
of 3 D/CAD Computor Program for properties/structures. The program can, from photographs and
one measurement, then produce 3 D drawings of the building. They explained the procedures and
benefits of their software. Mr. Smith then answered questions from the Committee.
Councillor T. Galloway then questioned staff as to whether it was possible to make this type of
recording a requirement of submitting a demolition application. Mr. B. Stanley advised that it could
be possible. He stated that, normally, in the past, detailed drawings have been required.
Councillor J. Haalboom requested that staff give consideration to requiring 3 D computerized CAD
drawings for designated properties and properties on the inventory which are slated for demolition.
4. DELEGATION - ICE RINK LOGOS, CiViC SQUARE RINK
Councillor J. Smola was in attendance to request the Committee's input on possible Iogos for the
Civic Square ice rink, for 1999. He explained his own involvement with this process over the past
two years. The Committee questioned Councillor Smola on guidelines, timing and funding.
Councillor T. Galloway advised that he thought that this should be done through the Parks and
Recreation Department and staff from that Department could ask for suggestions.
ALTERATIONS/DEMOLITION APPLICATIONS - 234 FREDERICK STREET
The Committee was in receipt of a copy of the Alteration/Demolition Application for 234 Frederick
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Street and a copy of the description of the alteration/demolition outlined in the report of CHRT -
LASSO Group Inc., dated August 31, 1998. Ms. A. Carberry, Mr. W. Rabley and Mr. B. Lasso
were in attendance to represent the application and answer any questions the Committee might
have. Mr. L. Bensason displayed slides of the subject property.
The Committee then reviewed each of the items in the report and discussed and voted on each
item separately, amending item no. 2 (b) and no. 3 and deferring item no. 8 "Window
replacement" for future consideration, pending further information. The Committee also deferred
discussion and voting on item no. 9 in the report, as those matters were intended for future
consideration.
On motion by Mr. P. Bufe
It was resolved:
"That, with respect to site plan approval for 234 Frederick Street, the Department of
Business and Planning Services give consideration to maintaining the trees on the
periphery of the proposed rearyard parking lot."
On motion by Ms. S. Campbell
It was resolved:
"That, pursuant to Section 34 of the Ontario Heritaqe Act, we approve the request of the
owner to alter the designated property known municipally as 234 Frederick Street (Forsyth
House) as outlined in the Alteration/Demolition Application, dated September 1, 1998 and
the accompanying report by CHRT - LASSO Group Inc., dated August 31, 1998, including
the demolition the of the detached garage, save and except for the following:
That the height of the new railing around the perimeter of the upper front porch at 234
Frederick Street be approved by the Chief Building Official in consideration of load and use
related issues, and further
That the style of the spindles and posts for the upper front porch at 234 Frederick Street be
approved by a sub-committee of Heritage Kitchener and further
That the window to be installed in the left upper second floor corner of the house at 234
Frederick Street match the style of the original window or be a double window of the same
style as on the two adjacent properties, and further
That items 8 & 9 in the report of CHRT - LASSO Group Inc., dated August 31, 1998,
dealing with window replacement and future considerations not be considered as part of
this application and not be approved at this time."
6. FREEPORT BRIDGE
Ms. D. Arnold, Assistant City Solicitor, was in attendance with respect to this Committee's motion
of August 14, 1998, recommending the designation of the Freeport Bridge. Ms. Arnold advised
that the Ontario Heritage Act clearly requires that the municipality must register a designating by-
law against the real property. The City would have to retain a surveyor in this instance. She
advised that another possibility other than designation, would be to enter into an easement
agreement with the Region. The owner would have to be in agreement with the easement. An
easement agreement is not required to be registered.
Ms. S. Campbell questioned other bridges in Ontario and Mr. Bensason advised that the examples
of other by-laws he has received all have legal descriptions. A discussion then took place
concerning heritage easements and the difference between heritage easements and designation
and the need to register designating by-laws. It was suggested that the matter be discussed with
the Region who may have the required information.
Councillor T. Galloway questioned whether the proposed designation had been discussed with the
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Region and Ms. Heinrichs advised that she had sent a copy of the designation report to Ms. D.
Shantz and had spoken to Mr. P. Mason who hadn't indicated a concern. Councillor Galloway
suggested that it was usually for members of Heritage Kitchener to discuss the proposed
designation with the owner and invite them to a meeting of this Committee.He suggested
deferring the designation, at this time, pending further discussion with the owner.
On motion by Mr. P. Bufe
It was resolved:
"That the motion of Heritage Kitchener of August 14, 1998, recommending the publication
of a Notice of Intention to designate the Freeport Bridge, King Street East, be withdrawn at
this time, pending further discussion with the owner."
Mr. L. Bensason was requested by the Committee to investigate the designation of the Eden Mills
Bridge.
Ms. S. Campbell left the meeting at this time.
7. DESIGNATION - 237 FREDERICK STREET
The Committee was in receipt of Heritage Property Report for 237 Frederick Street. At the
meeting, the Committee was provided with the reasons for designation. Mr. D. Stilling, the
property owner, was in attendance. Mr. L. Bensason displayed slides of the property. Mr. Stilling
addressed the Committee and advised of the options he felt were available to him, with respect to
developing this property. He advised that he was not in favour of designation of any part of this
building.
Councillor T. Galloway left the meeting at this time.
When questioned by the Committee, Mr. Stilling advised that he was prepared to keep the two
storey portion of the building, subject to an engineering report. If it can't be done, he advised that
he would request that staff go ahead with the Demolition Control Application.
The Committee then discussed the designation report, the purpose of designation and what would
be accomplished. The Committee then considered whether they would want to include the
designation of the one and half storey rear addition. It was generally agreed that the designation
only include the two storey main house. The Committee then reviewed the specific features of the
designation.
On motion by Mr. P. Bufe
It was resolved:
"That, pursuant to Section 29 of the Ontario Heritaqe Act, the Clerk be directed to publish a
Notice of Intention to designate the property municipally known as 237 Frederick Street
(The Frederick Louis Knells House) as being of historic and architectural significance, and
further
That the designation include all exterior elevations of the main two storey house only, with
the specific features to include; the brick facade, roof and roofline including shed dormers;
polygonal projecting bay with wood shingled gable, decorative pendant and barge board;
wood cornice; brackets under eaves; all window openings, windows, wood sills and brick
voussoirs; and the partially enclosed verandah with tapered wood posts and brick piers."
8. MEMBERS' TOURS OF DESIGNATED PROPERTIES
After a brief discussion, it was generally agreed that the members' tour of designated properties
would take place on October 2, prior to the regular meeting. Further information will follow.
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10.
DESIGNATION - GREENBROOK PUMPING STATION
The Committee was in receipt of a Heritage Property Report for the Greenbrook Pumping Station,
20 Greenbrook Drive. Mr. L. Bensason advised that there was some errors in the historic portion
of the report and it will be revised.
Councillor Haalboom advised that the Region will only agree to the designation of the 1912
building; as they know they are going to make alterations and additions and they do not want any
difficulties. The Region will be able to come to the October 2 meeting and she requested that the
matter be put over to that meeting.
KITCHENER-WILMOT HYDRO PROPOSAL TO REPLACE HYDRO POLES ON
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DOONBROOK PLACE
Ms. E. Heinrichs left the meeting at this time.
The Committee members were provided with copies of the Kitchener-Wilmot Hydro plan no.
B7141, dated July 30, 1998, showing the replacement of hydro poles on Doonbrook Place. Mr. L.
Bensason explained the proposal and that the Upper Doon Heritage Conservation District Plan
recommends underground services. Councillor Haalboom explained that the plan also proposes
the removal of the line across the pond. The Committee briefly discussed the Hydro proposal.
On motion by Mr. E. Lucy
It was resolved:
"That, notwithstanding Subsection 5.15.3 of the Upper Doon Heritage Conservation District
Plan, we approve the request of the Kitchener-Wilmot Hydro to replace existing hydro poles
on Doonbrook Place with new hydro poles as shown on their plan no. B7141, dated July
30, 1998, considered by Heritage Kitchener on September 11, 1998, and further
That the City of Kitchener has no objection to individual property owners on Doonbrook
Place agreeing to pay for underground services."
UPDATES
Mr. L. Bensason provided copies of the brochure advertising the public open house for the
proposed St. Mary's Neighbourhood Heritage Conservation District.
Mr. Bensason advised that the property at 70 Victoria Street North has recently sold and advised
that there is a potential for demolition. He advised that he wished to put the Committee members
on notice.
Councillor J. Haalboom advised that the designation ceremony for the Woolner Farm will take
place in the afternoon of October 30, 1998.
Mr. P. Bufe advised that he would have information on the properties at 215, 219 - 221 and 223
Frederick Street and 122 Lancaster Street East available for the October meeting.
Mr. L. Bensason displayed designs of signs which could be installed in the Heritage District.
NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of Heritage Kitchener is scheduled for Friday October 2, 1998, in the
Conestoga Room, commencing at 11:45 a.m.
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ADJOURNMENT
On motion, the meeting adjourned at 3:30 p.m.
Dianne H. Gilchrist
Committee Secretary