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HERITAGE KITCHENER MINUTES
MAY 7, 1999 CITY OF KITCHENER
Heritage Kitchener met this date, chaired by Councillor J. Haalboom, commencing at 12:00 noon, with the
following members present: Ms. G. Engel, Ms. C. Martindale, Ms. P. Wagner, Messrs. M. Badran, P.
Bufe, E. Lucy and B. Scott.
Others present: Ms. S. Barber, Messrs. L. Bensason and T. Boutilier and Ms. D. Gilchrist..
1. 811 BLEAMS ROAD - STECKLE HERITAGE HOMESTEAD - ALTERATION APPLICATION
Dr. J. Steckle was in attendance to represent her application to restore certain of the buildings at
811 Bleams Road. The Committee had been provided with copies of the Alteration Application. It
was noted that the alterations were consistent with the Scheinman Report prepared in 1994 - 1995
and previously considered by this Committee. Mr. L. Bensason showed slides of the various
buildings on the property which are proposed to be restored and Dr. Steckle explained the
proposed renovations.
Dr. Steckle thanked the Heritage Kitchener sub-committee and Mr. Bensason for their assistance
in this regard.
Dr. Steckle then spoke of the partnerships which have been formed with the Steckle Heritage
Homestead resulting in an increased use of the homestead; which is why they wish to proceed
with these renovations. She noted that they are trying to meet the needs of the school programs.
Dr. Steckle summarized what work will be done, this year, on the well, barn roof, dawdy haus and
horse stable and they have funding to do this. The Committee then questioned several aspects of
the application.
On a motion by Ms. C. Martindale,
it was resolved:
"That, pursuant to Section 33 of the Ontario Heritage Act, we approve the request of the
owner to alter the designated property municipally known as 811 Bleams Road (Steckle
Heritage Homestead), with all alterations being done in accordance with the owner's
Designated Property Alteration Application, signed May 7, 1999."
Carried Unanimously
A brief discussion took place concerning the potential for work at the homestead being a
millennium project. Councillor Haalboom explained some of the criteria and suggested that Dr.
Steckle contact Mrs. L. Ferguson in the Parks and Recreation Department.
379 GLASGOW STREET - DESIGNATION
Councillor J. Haalboom advised that Heritage Kitchener's resolution, from the April meeting, had
been forwarded to the Region's Heritage Planning Advisory Committee. In response, the
Committee members were provided with a resolution from the Heritage Planning Advisory
Committee, of their meeting of April 29, 1999, supporting the Heritage designation of 379 Glasgow
Street. The Committee was in receipt of a Heritage Property Report for 379 Glasgow Street,
prepared by Ms. G. Engel and Mr. L. Bensason. Mr. Bensason showed slides of the building,
pointing out the features of the French Eclectic style. He also showed slides of the landscape of
the property. Mr. Bensason explained the impact on the property should the Region install a right
turn lane on Westmount at Glasgow.
Mr. Bensason advised that he has spoken with the property owners who agree with the specific
features of the designation, except for the dormer on the north elevation. They would like to
replace the existing cladding with aluminum in a similar style. A discussion took place regarding
the owner's request with Ms. P. Wagner and Mr. P. Bufe disagreeing with the request.
Councillor Haalboom requested reasons for keeping the north elevation dormer in the specific
features and the Committee advised as follows: preservation of original material; appearance of
that facade; there is no other variation on the building; Heritage Kitchener sees this request in the
same light as the Region's proposal to remove part of the flagstone sidewalk.
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1. 811 BLEAMS ROAD - STECKLE HERITAGE HOMESTEAD - ALTERATION APPLICATION -
CONT'D
A discussion then took place with respect to the landscaping and that it should be included in the
specific features of the designation. Mr. L. Bensason stated a concern from a legal point of view
as to whether trees can be included and the reasons for designation. The Committee generally
agreed that they wanted the landscaping included.
On a motion by Mr. P. Bufe,
it was resolved:
"That, pursuant to Section 29 of the Ontario Heritage Act, the Clerk be directed to publish a
Notice of Intention to designate the property municipally known as 379 Glasgow Street,
Kitchener, as being of historic and architectural value; and further,
That the specific features of the designation include the following exterior and interior
features of 379 Glasgow Street:
Exterior Features: All building elevations including mixed wall cladding of brick and
stone; window openings and original windows, glazing, muntin bars, sills and voussoirs;
projecting towered principal entrance with wood panelled door, octagonal roof and
metal crown royal symbol; all dormers including wood shingle cladding; rear bay clad in
white stucco with half timbering; wood soffits, facia and bargeboard; roof and a roofline;
brick chimneys with decorative cap; and the flagstone walkway from Glasgow Street to
the principal entrance, and mature deciduous and coniferous trees located in the front
and right sideyards including large maple, spruce and clump birch tree species.
Interior Features: Primary staircase with wrought iron railing and polished oak wood
hand rail; original 1930's floor, wall tile and built-in electric heater in both bathrooms;
original polished metal door hardware; and door to walk-in safe in the basement."
ADAPTIVE REUSEINCENTIVES
The Committee was in receipt of Business and Planning Services staff report BPS 99/69,
dated April 29, 1999, with respect to the Economic Development Advisory Committee's
request to investigate the use of Section 39 of the Ontario Heritage Act.
Councillor J. Haalboom stated that she and Mr. Bufe own designated properties and
questioned whether she may have a pecuniary interest in this matter. Mr. T. Boutilier advised
that only those designated properties which are designated by Council as adaptive re-use
sites would benefit from this proposal.
Mr. Boutilier advised that this proposal has been developed by staff; which has been
discussed at the Economic Development Advisory Committee. They have asked that the
recommendation be forwarded to Heritage Kitchener, and Planning and Economic
Development Committee on Monday May 10. Mr. Boutilier explained that there is an adaptive
re-use program in the City of Kitchener which provides incentives to a selected number of
sites. There are sixteen sites approved by Council and certain ones are entitled to more
incentives than the others. He explained the process of designating certain areas of the City,
such as the downtown, as community improvement areas. Mr. Boutilier then referred to
Sonneck House, which is designated under the Ontario Heritage Act. He advised that staff
are asking Heritage Kitchener for its endorsement of this proposal and support to go forward
to Council with this report.
A discussion then took place as to the relationship between Heritage Kitchener and the
Economic Development Advisory Committee in this program. Mr. B. Scott suggested that
Heritage Kitchener should have a role in selecting the sites which would benefit from this
program. Mr. L. Bensason stated that it is clear, under the Ontario Heritage Act, an applicant
must come to this Committee for approval to alter a designated building. Getting a grant
would not change that. He also advised that he gets many enquiries about financial
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assistance for designated properties.
ADAPTIVE REUSE INCENTIVES - CONT'D
Mr. Bensason then questioned whether an owner of a designated property could apply to be
an adaptive re-use site. Mr. Boutilier responded that they could, but the site must be in an
extreme condition to be an adaptive re-use site. Mr. Boutilier then explained that there are
many incentives under the adaptive re-use program which would not have value for residential
properties. He then explained the tax rebate and building permit fees. It may be possible to
have a similar program for designated properties, such as waiving building permit fees. Mr.
Bensason suggested 72 Victoria Street South as a candidate for the program.
Councillor J. Haalboom read aloud the recommendation from the staff report. Mr. B. Scott
requested an amendment to the recommendation that Heritage Kitchener work in partnership
with the Economic Development Advisory Committee to determine which designation sites
should be included as adaptive re-use sites.
On a motion by Mr. B. Scott,
it was resolved:
"That Heritage Kitchener recommends that staff of the Business and Planning Services
Department be directed to investigate the expansion of the current Section 28
Downtown Community Improvement Area, and the use of Section 39 of the Ontario
Heritage Act to extend the adaptive re-use package of development incentives for
designated adaptive re-use sites which are also designated under Part IV of the
Ontario Heritage Act; and further,
That Heritage Kitchener partner with the Economic Development Advisory Committee
in the identification of designated sites to be included as adaptive re-use sites to
benefit from the package of development incentives."
Carried Unanimously
3040 OLD MILL ROAD - POSSIBLE DESIGNATION
Photocopies of old photographs of the building were shown at the meeting. Mr. L. Bensason
advised that an on-site inspection meeting will be arranged. Ms. P. Wagner reviewed the
historic research she had undertaken and some of the problems encountered. As well, a
review of the title search was presented by Mr. P. Bufe.
It was agreed that Ms. C. Martindale, Mr. E. Lucy and Ms. T. Seedhouse would do further
research on the property. Mr. Bensason advised that a site visit would be arranged within the
next two weeks. Councillor J. Haalboom advised that the owners will be submitting a
development proposal very soon.
HERITAGE CONSERVATION DISTRICT SIGNAGE
Mr. L. Bensason displayed a map of the Victoria Park Area Heritage Conservation District
showing possible locations for district signage, at entrances to the District. He noted that the
small signs would cost $100.00 each and the large signs $125.00 each. In addition, there are
three intersections where 4" x 4" posts need to be installed. He noted that signage is the only
thing proposed for Victoria Park. It was also suggested that an interpretative sign about the
park and the District be erected.
Mr. Bensason noted that there is $25,000.00 in the budget this year to implement the policies
in the District plans. Of that money will come the costs for the Interpretative Centre for Upper
Doon. Mr. Bensason advised that he would work with the Traffic Division to determine which
corner of each intersection would be best for the signs.
The Committee generally agreed that staff should proceed with erection of the District signage
for the Victoria Park Area Heritage Conservation District, as shown on the map displayed at
the meeting this date. Mr. B. Scott again, requested an interpretative sign in the District to tell
about the District and the park.
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5. HERITAGE CONSERVATION DISTRICT SIGNAGE - CONT'D
Regarding the Upper Doon Heritage Conservation District, Mr. E. Lucy advised that letters
have been circulated to all residents in the District. The letter indicates the proposed sign
locations and logo. He indicated that six responses have been received so far. Mr. Lucy
advised that there is a need for five signs at five intersections. In addition, he requested that
a significant sign be placed at the entrance to the village. Mr. Lucy then distributed the design
for the logo.
Mr. Bensason briefly explained the interpretative centre proposed for Upper Doon at the
millrace for Doon Twine. He then advised that he would discuss the proposed Upper Doon
signage locations with Traffic staff and he also agreed to have them prepare a sign with the
logo.
6. GRAND RIVER SOUTH COMMUNITY PLAN - SCENIC ROADS
Mr. Bensason provided some background information in this regard noting that work on the
Grand River South Community Plan has been stalled. He advised that he met with Mr. J.
Willmer to discuss a scenic road study. He also advised that Zeller Drive and Woolner Drive
are not identified as scenic roads in the Municipal Plan. He also noted that to do a scenic
road study on Woolner Drive may not be useful.
Concerning Zeller Drive, Mr. Bensason advised that he will formally look at it as a scenic road
and rate each section according to the criteria. It was noted that Mr. P. Britton is receptive to
looking at portions of Zeller Drive as a scenic road.
Mr. B. Scott questioned whether anyone from Heritage Kitchener worked on the environmental
assessment process and Mr. Bensason responded that he did not think that had happened.
He stated that, unfortunately, Woolner Drive and Zeller Drive were not listed in the Heritage
Inventory as scenic roads. If they had been, Heritage Kitchener would have expected to be
informed and included in the environmental process. He suggested that Heritage Kitchener
review roads which should be included in the inventory. He suggested the possibility that
Heritage Kitchener could pass a resolution asking that prior to the EA information being given
to Council, Heritage Kitchener complete a scenic roads analysis for consideration. Mr.
Bensason noted that, in 1998, the Region undertook a scenic road study and these roads
were in the top 10-12 percent of the most scenic roads in the Region.
Councillor Haalboom asked what the Committee wished to do and Mr. Bufe suggested that
they be put on the Heritage Inventory.
On a motion by Mr. P. Bufe,
it was resolved:
"That Woolner Drive and Zeller Drive be added to the Heritage Inventory."
Mr. Bensason advised that he and Ms. Barber would proceed to rate both Woolner Drive and
Zeller Drive. It was requested that this information be provided at the next meeting.
The role of HPAC was questioned with respect to roads included in the Region's scenic road
study. It was suggested that, if a Regional work will impact a Regional road included in this
study that HPAC should be included.
Mr. D. Bennett of MacNaughton, Hermsen, Britton, Clarkson was in attendance to address the
Committee with respect to the Fairway Road extension. He advised that the Fairway Road EA
would be going to Council in the near future. He noted that the Region currently owns part of
the right of way east of Lackner. There are certain limitations on where it can go, which is one
of the reasons why the Woolner Drive alignment was recommended. He noted that any
opportunity to deviate to the south has an impact on ESPA's. Anything else was less
desireable to cross the river. He noted that there was very little opportunity to deviate to the
south. Mr. Bennett then clarified certain of Mr. Bensason's comments.
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7. PUBLIC WORKS IN VICTORIA PARK
Mr. Bensason brought to the attention of the Committee the extensive work being undertaken
in Victoria Park; specifically the Park Street sanitary and storm sewers. He suggested that
assistance is needed to deal with the impact these works will have on designated properties.
He mentioned 82 Heins Avenue and the property owned by Ms. S. Burke. Mr. Bensason then
spoke of ways to lessen vibration impact on heritage homes, suggesting that this is an issue
the Committee may want to look into further. Mr. B. Scott suggested that Heritage Kitchener
be involved in the planning stages for these types of public works in the future.
8. 146 PIONEER TOWER ROAD - LOG HOUSE
Mr. Bensason reviewed the situation with respect to the log house purchased by the City of
Kitchener formally located at 146 Pioneer Tower Road. He noted that the neighbourhood
association has done a lot of research to find a site to relocate it. A sub-committee composed
of Mr. Bensason, Mr. M. Badran, Ms. G. Engel and Ms. P. Wagner was established to work
with the community in this regard.
9. UPDATES
Concerning repairs to 5 Maurice Street, Mr. Bensason advised that a sub-committee
composed of Messrs. P. Bufe, M. Badran and E. Lucy would meet with Ms. K. Kwiatkowski of
Kitchener Housing Inc. on May 11th in this regard.
Concerning the designation of the Freeport Bridge, Mr. Bensason advised that he is in the
process of identifying the specific features to be included in the designation, for agreement by
the Region. The property report is being prepared.
Mr. Bensason advised that he has receive a telephone call advising that the owners are
interested in submitting a demolition application for 209 Frederick Street (Bingeman Cottage).
Mr. Bensason has advised them that the property is designated. Further, the private members
bill will apply. He advised that a demolition application has not yet been received.
Regarding the demolition at 62 King Street East, Mr. Bensason advised that as a result of the
on-site meeting, specific features of the building have been salvaged. The side of the TD
Bank will be stuccoed in a colour to match the rest of the building.
Mr. Bensason advised that the property at 72 Victoria Street South has been purchased and
the property is proposed to be converted to offices. The new owners are interested in co-
operating with this Committee with regard to the exterior of the building. A sub-committee
composed of Mr. P. Bufe and Ms. G. Engel was formed to work with the owners.
It was noted that the sub-committee members for 921 Glasgow Street are Ms. S. Barber, Ms.
G. Engel and Ms. C. Martindale.
Mr. Bensason advised that a pre-application meeting took place regarding a proposed
development for vacant land close to the CN Rail (Knell Hardware) in the Victoria Park Area
Heritage Conservation District. The proposal is for two eight-storey towers with townhouses
at the back. Mr. Bensason noted that he has advised the City's planners that the property is
located in the District and the rules concerning new buildings apply. He noted that the owner
may apply to the Committee of Adjustment for nine storeys and those applications would go to
him for comment.
A brief discussion took place as to whether zone changes could be applied for during the
conservation district plan stage. Mr. B. Scott noted that there is a secondary plan review
process coming up for the Victoria Park Area. Mr. Scott agreed to work on this proposal on
behalf of the Committee.
10. WEST SIDE CONNECTION STUDY
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Mr. L. Bensason advised that Mr. D. Pullen had provided him with information on some of the
WEST SIDE CONNECTION STUDY- CONT'D
options being considered by the West Side Connection Study Steering Committee. A copy of
the options was distributed to the Committee. Mr. Bensason pointed out the suggested
operational improvements for Queen/Courtland and Queen/Charles. He pointed out that the
Queen/Courtland proposal would require a widening on the south side of Courtland. He noted
that there would be a public meeting in this regard on May 20th.
Mr. B. Scott noted that this option along with Option #5 are the two preferred options. He
advised that he would attend a special meeting in this regard the following week and he would
take a resolution from this Committee to the meeting.
On a motion by Mr. B. Scott,
it was resolved:
"That Heritage Kitchener recommends that Stantec Consulting and the Downtown
Kitchener Westside Connection Study Steering Committee remove the widening of
Courtland Avenue between Benton and Queen Streets from their operational
improvement options, as outlined in the Interim Report No. 2 Evaluation of Alternatives,
April 1999, Section 2.3.2 "Alternative I-Intersection Improvements, Page 8"; as
property on either side of Courtland Avenue, between Benton Street and Queen Street
is of significant heritage importance."
It was requested, that at the next meeting, this Committee consider a recommendation to the City
and the Region that this option will not be pursued and that the properties owned by the City and
Region will be sold.
ST. MARY'S AREA HERITAGE CONSERVATION DISTRICT
Councillor Haalboom advised that Archaeological Services Inc. has been hired to prepare the St.
Mary's Area Heritage Conservation District Plan. She briefly spoke of the members of this
company.
KOR GALLERY AND STUDIOS
Councillor Haalboom reviewed with the Committee what Council had approved with respect to the
alteration of the Kor Gallery and Studios, 79 Joseph Street. She noted that opening day is
proposed for June 15th.
MILLENNIUM COMMITTEE
Councillor Haalboom spoke of the Millennium Committee and the listed categories for Millennium
projects. She noted that the funding must come from a community group. It was suggested that
the restoration of the Governor's House and Gaol should be recommended for a Millennium
project and this Committee could pass a recommendation in support.
On a motion by Mr. P. Bufe,
it was resolved:
"That Heritage Kitchener requests that Council seriously consider the restoration of the
Governor's House and Gaol as a millennium project."
GENERAL DISCUSSION
It was noted that at the North Waterloo ACO meeting on May 11th at 7:30 p.m. Ms. S. Frenette
would be speaking on the adaptive re-use of older buildings.
Ms. P. Wagner noted that at the winter CHO meeting there was a discussion about that
organization becoming political provincially. Questions should be raised with political candidates
about the review of the Heritage Act. A brief discussion took place about writing letters and
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GENERAL DISCUSSION - CONT'D
It was requested that the Huron Road Bridge at Doon Heritage Crossroads be added to the
Heritage Inventory.
ADJOURNMENT
On motion, the meeting adjourned at 5:50 p.m.
Dianne H. Gilchrist
Committee Administrator