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HomeMy WebLinkAboutLACAC - 1993-05-07LACAC\1993-05-07 LOCAL ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES MAY 7, 1993 The Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee met this date, commencing at 12:05 p.m., under the Chairmanship of Alderman M. Wagner, with the following members present: Mr. E. Bow, Ms. B. Buchanan, Mr. P. Bufe, Ms. J. Chivers-Wilson, Ms. E. Esenbergs, Mr. R. Fuller, Ms. J. Kramer, Mrs. G. Stoner, Mr. V. Tarbutt and Mrs. P. Wagner. Alderman T. Galloway was in attendance for part of the meeting. Others present: Mr. L. Bensason, Mr. B. Stanley and Mrs. D. Gilchrist. 1. MINUTES Mrs. G. Stoner advised that she has some concerns with the statements made in the April 2, 1993 minutes with respect to parking taking place in the front yards on Maynard Avenue. The minutes state that it appears that this type of parking is commonly taking place; whereas Mrs. Stoner stated that it is not. Ms. B. Buchanan agreed with Mrs. Stoner and stated that she has taken a survey of the area and there is no parking in the front yard taking place in this area. Ms. Buchanan requested that this statement be struck from the minutes. Alderman Wagner advised that the minutes are correct, but could be amended to show that the statement was the opinion of Mr. Jarrett. Further, he advised that this matter is not an item for discussion at this meeting. Alderman Wagner advised that if Ms. Buchanan wished to discuss this matter further, it could be listed as an item for discussion on the June agenda; however, it should be noted that this matter has already been dealt with by Council and no new recommendation will go to Council in this regard. On a motion by Mrs. G. Stoner - It was resolved: "That the minutes of the regular meeting of the Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee, of April 2, 1993, be amended with respect to the discussion on 25 Maynard Avenue to show that it was Mr. Jarrett's opinion that parking in front of the lot line is a common occurrence on Maynard Avenue." On a motion by Mr. E. Bow - It was resolved: "That the minutes of the regular meeting of the Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee, of April 2, 1993, as mailed to members and amended this date, be adopted." 2. DELEGATION - 1 KING STREET WEST (WALPER TERRACE HOTEL) Mr. C. Klotz was in attendance to represent the owner's request to alter the designated property at 1 King Street West (Walper Terrace Hotel). Two of the alterations deal with new signs and the third request is for permission to remove the glass block portion of the King Street elevation to allow for the installation of a clear glass panel. Mr. Klotz advised that the first sign is to advertise the Hotel and will consist of white letters made out of acrylic, spelling out the name of the Walper Terrace Hotel and is to be located between the second and third storeys, there will be no neon and no lighting of this sign. Mr. E. Bow advised that a sub-committee composed of himself, Ms. S. Burke and Mr. L. Bensason reviewed the proposal and although they are not opposed to a sign they felt that the white lettering was not appropriate as other signs on these elevations are brass. Further, the sub-committee had a concern as to how the signs will be fixed to the wall so as not to damage the brickwork. In response, Mr. Klotz advised that he had some concerns with gold coloured lettering as it was his opinion that it would not show up at night. Further, he advised that the signs would be attached with 1½" pins into the brick. It was suggested by Mr. P. Bufe that the pins could go into the mortar rather than the brick and Mr. Klotz advised that he would have no objection with this provided that pins in the mortar would hold up the sign. LOCAL ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES - 93- MAY 7, 1993 2. DELEGATION - 1 KING STREET WEST (WALPER TERRACE HOTEL) (cont.) Mr. C. Klotz displayed drawings of the proposed sign for the Bismarck Pub and Mr. E. Bow advised that the original drawing submitted were not sufficient for the sub-committee to make a decision. Further, with respect to the removal of the glass block, Mr. Bow advised that the sub- committee was in agreement with its removal provided that it is replaced with windows of a similar style to the others on the first floor of the building. With respect to the sign for the Bismarck Pub, Mr. Klotz advised that the sign would be made of wood and painted the same on both sides. Mr. Bufe questioned how the sign would be fixed to wall and Mr. Klotz advised that it would be fastened with a plate and bolts into the brick. Mr. Bow pointed out that the brick in this location is new brick. Mr. V. Tarbutt advised that he would want to see drawings that would show the type of window chosen to replace the glass block and it was suggested by Alderman M. Wagner that the drawings be given to the sub-committee and they be permitted to make the decision on behalf of the Committee. When questioned about lighting, Mr. Klotz advised that the Bismarck sign would not be internally lit but could have spot lights on other side depending on the need. The Secretary advised the Committee that the final determination as to the signs, the method of installing the signs and the type of window to replace the glass block is the responsibility of the Committee as a whole and should be made prior to making a recommendation to City Council. Alderman M. Wagner advised that the sub-committee is being given the authority to make these decisions on behalf of the Committee and recommendations should be forwarded to City Council at this time. On a motion by Mr. E. Bow - It was resolved: "That pursuant to Section 33 of the Ontario Heritaqe Act, Council grant the owner's request to install signage between the second and third floors on the King Street elevation, of the property known municipally known as 1-11 King Street West (Walper Terrace Hotel) as presented to the Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee on May 7, 1993; and further, That this approval be conditional on the owner satisfying the Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee sub-committee that the colour of the letters in the signage will be consistent with the existing signage on the King Street elevation and that the method of fastening will not be invasive of the bricks; and further, That this approval be conditional on the owner entering into any necessary agreements and obtaining all necessary approvals." On a motion by Mr. E. Bow - It was resolved: "That pursuant to Section 33 of the Ontario Heritaqe Act, Council grant the owner's request to remove the glass brick bay on the King Street elevation of the property known municipally as 1-11 King Street West (Walper Terrace Hotel) and to replace it with a window more consistent with existing windows on the Queen Street elevation, as presented to the Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee on May 7, 1993; and further, DELEGATION - 1 KING STREET WEST (WALPER TERRACE HOTEL) (cont.) That this approval be conditional on the owner satisfying the Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee sub-committee that the new LOCAL ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES - 24 - window is consistent with the design of the existing windows on the ground floor of the building." On a motion by Mr. E. Bow - It was resolved: MAY 7, 1993 "That pursuant to Section 33 of the Ontario Heritaqe Act, Council approve the owner's request to install a projecting sign for the Bismarck Pub on the King Street elevation of the property known municipally as 1-11 King Street West (Walper Terrace Hotel), in accordance with the drawings submitted to the Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee on May 7, 1993; and further, That this approval be conditional on the owner satisfying the Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee sub-committee that the method of fastening the sign will not be invasive of the bricks; and further, That this approval be conditional on the owner entering into any necessary agreements and obtaining all necessary approvals." 3. RESTORATION - 25 JOSEPH STREET (VICTORIA PUBLIC SCHOOL) Ms. N. Lichty of the Housing Division was in attendance and requested the Committee's comments on how the installation of window air conditioners relate to the designating by-law. There was general discussion as to whether or not the installation of window air conditioners could be considered an alteration to a designated property and whether or not they affected the reasons for designation. Alderman M. Wagner requested that the Committee review the reasons for designation and then make a decision at the June meeting as to whether they feel that the reasons for designation would be affected by the installation of window air conditioners. As Ms. S. Burke was not in attendance and the Committee was not in receipt of a written recommendation and paint sample chips from her, it was agreed to defer consideration of the paint scheme at the Victoria Public School to the June meeting. The Committee acknowledged receipt of the memorandum from Ms. S. Frenette dated April 6, 1993 concerning the plaque installation, as an information item. 4. ALTERATION - 1188 OTTAWA STREET SOUTH The Committee was in receipt of a letter from Dr. S. Code dated April 13, 1993 informing the Committee of proposed changes to the building known as the Huether House. The Committee was also in receipt of an extract from the minutes of the August 7, 1992 L.A.C.A.C. meeting wherein it was generally agreed that a recommendation to designate would be considered when Dr. Code felt it was appropriate. Mr. M. Code was in attendance on behalf of the owner and displayed a concept plan of the building as it will look once the property has been renovated and developed. He gave the Committee an explanation of the proposed changes to the property. Alderman M. Wagner pointed out to the Committee that this is not a designated property and there is no intention to designate it at this time. Mr. Bensason advised that he asked Mr. Code to attend this date in order that the Committee be made aware of the proposed changes to the property. General discussion took place over the proposed changes as described by Mr. Code. WILLIAMSBURG TOWN CENTER DEVELOPMENT Mr. R. Schleigel and Mr. R. Hammond, Architect, were in attendance to review with the Committee the proposal for the Williamsburg Town Center development and related heritage components. These gentlemen displayed concept plans of the proposed development and discussed with the Committee their ideas of incorporating certain heritage structures into the development. Alderman Wagner raised the issue of the naming of the cemetery site on Westmount Road south of Bleams Road, consideration of which had been deferred at the Community Services Committee LOCAL ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES - 25 - MAY 7, 1993 meeting of May 3, 1993. Alderman Wagner advised of the suggestion raised at that meeting that the cemetery be called the Williamsburg Cemetery. General discussion took place over this matter and it was agreed that further discussion take place at the June meeting in this regard. Alderman T. Galloway left the meeting at this time. 6. UNFINISHED BUSINESS - 133 GRABER PLACE Mrs. G. Stoner addressed the Committee and advised that there is still work to be done in this regard and requested that consideration of this matter be deferred to the June meeting. 7. KAUFMAN FOO'I'VVEAR BUILDING Mrs. P. Wagner distributed a report from the sub-committee in which she advised that Mr. Snyder had been contacted to ascertain whether there was a method of preserving the smokestack in its present form. It was determined that there was no possibility of preserving the smokestack. Mr. L. Bensason advised the Committee that a demolition permit application has been submitted to demolish one of the outbuildings. He suggested that the sub-committee meet with him on site to look at the outbuildings. Mr. Bensason advised that he will arrange with Mr. Snyder for the sub- committee to have another tour of the site. 8. COMMUNICATIONS Ms. B. Buchanan advised that she would consider a designation ceremony for the Harry Class Pool and report back to the Committee at its June meeting. Mrs. P. Wagner suggested that the conference report from Mr. E. Bow on the event recently hosted by the Architectural Conservancy of Ontario in Port Hope should be discussed by the Committee at its June meeting. 9. NEW BUSINESS a) 236-248 and 264 Victoria Street North Mr. L. Bensason advised that a demolition permit application has been received for the above noted properties and he is drawing them to the Committee's attention as they are on the L.A.C.A.C. Inventory. He advised that it is the intention of the owners to demolish the existing buildings and put up new structures. He suggested that a member of L.A.C.A.C. along with himself meet with the applicant on site to discuss retaining the buildings. Alderman Wagner advised that he would attend and requested that someone else, who may end up chairing a L.A.C.A.C. sub-committee, attend as well. Mr. V. Tarbutt and Ms. E. Esenbergs volunteered to assist in this regard. b) Summer Student Mrs. P. Wagner suggested that L.A.C.A.C. develop a job description for a summer student. It was noted that the Strategic Plan Sub-Committee is developing a job description for a student. NEW BUSINESS (cont.) c) KPL Mr. V. Tarbutt advised that he has been asked to contribute to a round table discussion, at the Library on September 26, 1993 on adaptive re-use of buildings as part of Heritage Week. He advised that some of the other activities being pursued by the KPL for Heritage Week and suggested that the Publicity Committee meet in this regard. 10. HERITAGE POLICIES - MUNICIPAL OFFICIAL PLAN LOCAL ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES - 26 - MAY 7, 1993 It was agreed that consideration of this matter be deferred to the June meeting in order to allow more time for discussion and Alderman M. Wagner advised that the June meeting will probably last until 5:00 p.m. and that all members are invited to the Wagner's for a social time after the meeting is over. 11. NEXT MEETING The next regularly scheduled meeting of the Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee will be held on Friday, June 11, 1993. 12. ADJOURNMENT On motion, the meeting adjourned at 3:00 p.m. Dianne H. Gilchrist Committee Secretary