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LOCAL ARCHITECTURAL CONSERVATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE MINUTES
MAY 12, 1995
CITY OF KITCHENER
The Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee met this date, under the Chairmanship of
Councillor M. Wagner, commencing at 12:05 p.m., with the following members present: Councillor T.
Galloway, Mr. M. Badran, Mr. E. Bow, Ms. B. Buchanan, Mr. P. Bufe, Ms. S. Burke, Mr. R. Coo, Ms. P.
Costigan, Ms. E. Essenbergs, Mr. W. Ristau, Ms. P. Wagner and Ms. D. Westman.
Regrets: Councillor Jake Smola
Others: Mr. L. Bensason, Mr. T. Boutilier, Mr. T. B. Stanley, Mr. R. MacNeill and Ms. D. H. Gilchrist.
1. CHAIRMAN'S REMARKS
Councillor M. Wagner introduced Mr. R. MacNeill, who is a student planner working in the
Planning Department on heritage issues.
Councillor M. Wagner thanked Ms. S. Burke for the excellent lecture series which took place at the
Joseph Schneider Haus Museum this past April.
Councillor M. Wagner pointed out the letter, distributed to the members this date, from the
Regional Municipality of Waterloo, concerning the Peter Erb House located at Doon Heritage
Crossroads.
Councillor M. Wagner advised of a request from the KPL concerning their special session planned
for this fall. The KPL is proposing a walking tour called "Take A Hike". The tour will follow a route
from the library's main branch to Woodside Park. The library is requesting two volunteers from
L.A.C.A.C. to help conduct the tours. Ms. D.Westman and Ms. P. Costigan volunteered to assist
with the tours.
2. MINUTES
On motion by Ms. S. Burke,
It was resolved:
"That the Minutes of the regular meeting of the Local Architectural
Conservation Advisory Committee of April 7, 1995, as mailed to the
members, be amended, on page 18 item 5 (b) to show that L.A.C.A.C. did not
agree to change the road.
On motion by Mr. E. Bow,
It was resolved
"That the Minutes of the regular meeting of the Local Architectural
Conservation Advisory Committee of April 7, 1995, as mailed to the members
and amended be approved.
3. UP-DATES
A) Harvey J. Graber Transformer Station
Councillor M. Wagner gave a brief history on the process to date on the
designation of the Harvey Graber Transformer Station, for the benefit of the
new members of the Committee. He advised that he had recently received a
call from Mr. R. Charie of the Kitchener-Wilmot Hydro, advising that they
have an interested party who want to build houses on this site.
Ms. P. Wagner suggested several possible uses for this building and
organizations who may be able to use the building.
Councillor M. Wagner advised that it is Habitat for Humanity who are
interested in developing the site.
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3. UP-DATES - cont'd
A) Harvey J. Graber Transformer Station
It was generally agreed that this Committee would like Habitat for Humanity
to consider using this building in their project.
B) 18 Queen Street North
Mr. L. Bensason advised that he had received an enquiry from a Real Estate
agent who wants to demolish this building for a parking lot.
It was noted, that this building had, at one time, been the head office for
Economical Insurance Company.
Mr. Bensason requested one or two volunteers from the Committee who
would work with him to prepare preliminary reports, for the Committee's
consideration, on applications received between meetings. Mr. M. Badran
volunteered to assist Mr. Bensason in this regard.
C) Sonneck House
Mr. L. Bensason advised that he had received an inquiry about the possible
demolition of this building. It was generally agreed that every attempt should
be made to see that the building remains in its original state.
D) National Trust - P.U.C. Building
Mr. L. Bensason advised that he has had an inquiry from National Trust to
put an awning over the main entry of the building. He suggested that the
sub-committee, which worked on the previous signage, review this request
with him.
E) Pioneer Tower Area
Mr. L. Bensason referred to the plan attached to the agenda, advising that it
is a very preliminary draft plan for the Eastoa property and that an official
subdivision application has not yet been submitted. He advised that the
Planning Department staff has met with the owners along with Regional staff
and staff of the Public Works Department. Mr. Bensason was asked for
comments on the heritage significance of this area and has provided them
with the available material. He requested that a sub-committee be
established to develop more information. Ms. S. Burke responded that in
order to obtain more information, it will be necessary to gain access to the
buildings. Mr. Bensason advised that he thought that would be possible. Ms.
Burke volunteered to assist Mr. Bensason in this regard.
Mr. T. Boutilier advised that he will be meeting with Mr. P. Puopolo, the
owner's planning consultant, who wants to know what would be required in a
Heritage Impact Assessment. Mr. Boutilier stated that this area has been
considered for a Heritage District Plan but has been put aside. Now
development is proceeding and the urgency has returned. He advised that
this Committee needs to provide the historic merits of the area and then the
planner can prepare the impact assessment.
Mrs. P. Wagner advised that this matter was discussed at the Regional
Heritage Advisory Committee. It was noted that a scenic view study should
be done in this area.
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UP-DATES - cont'd
E) Pioneer Tower Area
Mr. T. B. Stanley advised the Committee that the Municipal Plan is going to
Regional Council for final approval on May 25, 1995. The developers in this
area have filed letters with the Regional Clerk which would send the
Municipal Plan, and specifically the Heritage Policies, to the Ontario
Municipal Board. Mr. Stanley then explained the difference between a
deferral and referral. He advised that staff are recommending a deferral to
City Council if it appears as though discussions would be possible. If the
matter is referred to the Ontario Municipal Board it could take up to a year for
a full Board hearing.
Councillor T. Galloway expressed his concern about the Ontario Municipal
Board Hearing because the decision is then taken out of the hands of the
City. If the matter is deferred, then it is possible to negotiate a settlement and
the policies will be put back into the plan.
F) 19 Durham Street
Mr. L. Bensason referred to the material attached to the agenda concerning
19 Durham Street. He requested the names of individuals or companies who
would be interested in the salvaged material. Further, Mr. Bensason
requested the Committee's direction in recording the building, questioning
whether photographs would be adequate or whether measured drawings
would be required. He suggested that good photographs may be all that is
required. Mr. M. Badran was asked to contact a couple of photographers to
determine the cost to photograph the building. Ms. P. Wagner suggested
that Mr. R. Rowel be permitted to submit a quote and that the A.C.O. be
contacted.
G) 39 Doon Valley Drive
Mr. L. Bensason briefly reviewed the situation with respect to the owners
desire to remove a tree from the property and the fact that the trees are
mentioned in the reasons for designation for this property. He stated that the
City's Arborist has inspected the tree and does not think it needs to be
removed. Staff are not sure if the tree is on City property or on the property
at 39 Doon Valley Drive.
H) Grand River South Community Plan
Mr. Bensason advised that a Technical Review Committee has been
established to review the Estate Residential Zoning in the Grand River South
Community. One of the properties included in this area is the Simms Estate.
The Technical Review Committee requested that a member of L.A.C.A.C.
participate in the review. The first meeting will be held on Wednesday May
31, 1995, from 2:00 p.m.-5:00 p.m..
Ms. P. Costigan volunteered with Ms. B. Buchanan to be the alternate.
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STECKLE HERITAGE HOMESTEAD - BY-LAW REVIEW
Mr. L. Bensason explained the need for the By-law review.
be deferred until January 1996.
It was generally agreed that this matter
PD95/46 DESIGNATED HERITAGE PROPERTY ALTERATION APPLICATIONS &
DESIGNATED PROPERTY GRANT APPLICATIONS - 181 Park Street and 163 Joseph
Street
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Mr. L. Bensason, dated May 3, 1995,
advising of the Designated Property Grant Applications and Designated Heritage Property
Alteration Applications received from the owners of 181 Park Street and 163 Joseph Street.
A general discussion took place over how the grant applications received in any year
should be processed, and whether a priority of considerations should be established. Mr.
Bensason questioned whether the applications should be prioritized according to structural
need or order of receipt or on the basis of some other priority.
It was generally agreed that the structural condition of the building should be considered as
a guideline; however, the Committee wishes to make ad hoc decisions each year as it is
determined how much funding will be received from the province and how many
applications will be received.
Concerning the staff report PD95/46, the Committee reviewed the material and
recommendations contained in the report.
On motion by Ms. E. Essenberg,
it was resolved:
"That a Designated Property Grant under the Preserving Ontario's
Architecture Program for 50% of eligible costs to a maximum of $3,000.00 be
approved, in principle, for 181 Park Street and the grant be used to fund the
rebuilding of the roof returns and reshingling in new cedar, stripping the
balcony roof and reshingling in new cedar, selective refurbishing of balcony
railings including the replacement of four turned posts, stripping and
resheathing the flat roof including flashing on the perimeter, repairing gable
decoration, replacing decayed facia under the eaves trough and stripping the
gable wall and reshingling with new cedar shingles, as outlined in the owner's
application dated January 10, 1995; and
That no action be taken on the request of the owner to fund the installation of
new eaves troughs; and further
That this approval be conditional upon the Province confirming its funding
commitment, all reconstructed features being identical in all respects to the
originals and all receipts/invoices being submitted to the Clerk's Division by
April 30, 1996."
On motion by Ms. E. Essenberg,
it was resolved:
"That, pursuant to Section 33, of the Ontario Heritaqe Act, we approve the
request of the owner to alter the designated property known municipally as
181 Park Street, Kitchener, as outlined in his Designated Heritage Property
Alteration Application dated April 27, 1995, as considered by the Local
Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee on May 12, 1995."
On motion by Mr. W. Ristau,
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it was resolved:
"That a Designated Property Grant under the Preserving Ontario's
Architecture Program for 50% of eligible costs to a maximum of $3,000.00 be
approved, in principle, for 163 Joseph Street, and the grant be used to fund
the replacement of two facia boards on the upper south gable, one facia
board on the south porch gable, and one facia board on the upper east
gable, to rebuild the rear porch railings including spindles, to rebuild the front
porch railings including spindles, and to rebuild the front porch floor, as
outlined in the owner's application dated March 30, 1995; and
That no action be taken on the request of the owner to install shingle
moulding on the south gable or for the painting; and further
That this approval be conditional upon the Province confirming its funding
commitment, all reconstructed features being identical in all respects to
existing originals and all receipts/invoices being submitted to the Clerk's
Division by April 30, 1996."
On motion by Mr. W. Ristau,
it was resolved:
"That, pursuant to Section 33 of the Ontario Heritaqe Act, we approve the
request of the owner to alter the designated property known municipally as
163 Joseph Street, Kitchener, as outlined in his Designated Heritage
Property Alteration Application, dated May 12, 1995 and considered by the
Local Architectural Conservation Advisory Committee on May 12, 1995."
6. MARGARET AVENUE SCHOOL
The Committee was in receipt of a report from Mr. L. Bensason, dated May 4, 1995,
outlining the work of the sub-committee investigating the designation of Margaret Avenue
Public School.
Ms. P. Costigan circulated a history of the property along with a copy of the city crest. She
questioned whether the Committee wished to insist that the door be included in the special
features for the designation. Ms. Costigan advised of the opinion of the sub-committee that
the door should be included in the designation. She questioned whether the Committee
wanted to proceed with the designation of this property if the School Board does not agree
with the inclusion of the door.
Mr. P. Bufe suggested that both the door with the transom and side lights and the copper
underneath the windows be included in the special features of the designation so that they
will be grant eligible.
It was generally agreed that the sub-committee should advised the Board's Management
Committee that they want the door, transom, side lights and the copper under the windows
included in the designation. If this is not acceptable to the Board, then designation should
not proceed at this time.
The sub-committee advised that they would be addressing the Management Committee of
the Board in this regard on June 5, 1995.
7. SUB-COMMITTEE REPORTS
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A) Inventory
Mr. L. Bensason advised that there are still some packages which have not
been returned from the last time the inventory was conducted. He requested
that they be completed and returned by the June 2, 1995 meeting. New
packages will be distributed at the June 2nd meeting to be completed by the
July 14th meeting.
B) Policies & Procedures
Mr. L. Bensason advised that the Policies & Procedures sub-committee have
designed a work program for a summer student. The work would involve
having the student spend the first two months organizing the inventory on a
data base and the rest of the time reviewing the Staging of Development
Report to identify heritage resources in future plans of subdivisions.
Mr. Bensason advised that it is questionable if there is computer space
available in the Planning Department for this student and he would need to
find a space for the student's work station.
Ms. S. Burke advised that she would be contacting the chairs of the sub-
committee's to review the goals in the L.A.C.A.C. Strategic Plan.
C) Designation
It was agreed that the sub-committee would concentrate on the following
properties for designation: Kaufmans, Forsyth Building, 393 Tilt Drive,
Margaret Avenue Public School, 45 Walter Street, First Mennonite Cemetery,
21 Ellen Street West, and 11-15 Pandora Avenue North and that those
people working on these buildings prepare a brief architectural/historic report
for the June 2nd meeting which will be sent to the property owners.
NEW BUSINESS
Ms. P. Wagner advised that as part of the Victoria Park 100th Birthday Celebrations, Ms. L.
O'Krafka has approached the owners of 6 designated properties for a house tour. They are
looking for L.A.C.A.C.'s support to conduct the tours. Ms. E. Essenberg, Mr. E. Bow, and
Mr. W. Ristau volunteered to assist in this regard.
Mr. L. Bensason advised that, because of the Mayor's Task Force, pressure has been put
on getting an easement agreement for Saint Jerome's. He will be working with Saint
Jerome's and the Legal Division to work on the easement. He advised that he will report to
this Committee when the easement agreement has been prepared and L.A.C.A.C. will have
to put forward a recommendation to City Council.
Mr. L. Bensason advised that Council approved the by-law to establish the area for the
Victoria Park Heritage Conservation District and approved the Alteration Application.
ADJOURNMENT
On motion the meeting adjourned at 3:00 p.m.
Dianne H. Gilchrist