HomeMy WebLinkAboutDowntown Advisory - 2000-07-13DOWNTOWN ADVISORY COMMITTEE
Thursday, July 13, 2000
The Kitchener Downtown Advisory Committee met this date under the Chairmanship of
Councillor Mark Yantzi, with the following members present: Trudy Beaulne, Tom
Brennand, Molly Green, Doug Hoch, Mike Peng, Anita Petsche-Good, Denise
Shelbourne, Debbie Schlichter, Denise Strong, Brenton Toderian, Ruth Tomlinson, Tim
Fox, Catherine Heal
1. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Anita Pestche-Good asked that the topic of the “All Ages Dance Parties” be
added to the agenda.
Moved by:Tom Brennand
Seconded by:Trudy Beaulne
CARRIED
2.APPROVAL OF MINUTES
It was moved that the minutes from the June 8, 2000 meeting be approved.
Moved by:Trudy Beaulne
Seconded by:Tom Brennand
CARRIED
3. UPTOWN WATERLOO – Brenton Toderian
Brenton Toderian reported that the point of this presentation is to see if there are
any similarities between Waterloo and Kitchener’s downtown/uptown advisory
committees
The Project 2007 (see attached), Report of the Uptown Vision Committee can be
compared to Kitchener’s Strategic Plan, but that this is a much simpler plan.
To-date, it has been successful, the job as a committee is to see this vision
implemented. The Committee sees themselves as the “Guardian of the vision”
and relating that anything developing in the uptown goes through the Committee
first, before going to council for approval. The Committee structure consists of 3
citizens, lots of city staff, and a library representative. All uptown developments
go through extensive questioning through this Committee, i.e. First Gulf,
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Waterloo Square, etc., the Committee is very hands-on and gets involved. Any
new housing, new park designs, etc. goes through this committee as well. Plans
are presented to committee, budgets are brought up here and are discussed
with the Committee. If the Committee sees something of importance, they
support it and present it to council with suggestions and recommendations.
Council has respect for committee and usually votes in favour of suggestions
from this committee. “A lot of bricks and mortar are brought to committee before
it goes to council”.
The Committee plays the advocate role, for example, the Committee organized
an interactive workshop that the public could attend for First Gulf and their plans
for the downtown..
Brenton says that the Committee has stayed focused on the simple tasks at
hand. He also feels that it should have more citizen participation. The BIA isn’t
involved as much with this Committee.
A question was asked if this Committee handles Neighbourhood Association
problems, and Brenton replied that they are not represented in this Committee.
He went on to say that they are less structured than DAC , they don’t discuss
homelessness issues, etc. at this Committee.
Further discussions took place on how they define geographically the uptown
boundaries. Brenton advised that there is no good definition of boundaries, the
BIA line is the commercial line, involving several different lines.
Trudy Beaulne suggested we arrange a half-day workshop with members from
DAC and the Uptown Vision Committee, and possibly also involve Cambridge in
talks, to share concerns, ideas, etc. Kitchener and Waterloo have two different
directions , we should discuss our ideas.
Tim Fox cautioned that we are not like “Uptown Waterloo”, we’ve got our own
identity, and that lessons to be learned from all different types of downtowns.
Further discussions took place on what everyone thinks a downtown should be.
Discussions took place regarding having a joint-guest speaker from each
Committee at a meeting. It was suggested that it be a separate meeting from
our regular DAC meetings, and that it could be a special meeting held at night in
order to accommodate everyone’s busy schedules. We should have some sort
of loosely based agenda. It was suggested two chairs and two staff members to
set agenda and co-chair meeting. It was then decided that a small sub-group
would meet, with a similar group from Waterloo, (sub-group consisting of
Councillor Mark Yantzi, Brenton Toderian, Trudy Beaulne, and David Corks.
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A motion was made to invite the Uptown Waterloo Committee to a joint
meeting to discuss mutual issues and interests affecting both city centres.
Moved by:Trudy Beaulne
Seconded by:Tom Brennand
CARRIED
Trudy Beaulne tacked on a comment about the Uptown Waterloo survey and
Opening Doors Forum, and encourage our participation in this survey (see the
attached).
4. BUSKERS – Molly Green
Molly Green handed out a memo to the Committee (see attached). Molly
reported that the KDBA and the Downtown Development Team would like to
formalize the business of street entertainers, and wants it to be a positive
experience for the entertainers. For this program to be a success, it would need
several different components, such as: a code of conduct, performers would not
be obligated to audition, don’t set limit on number of licenses issued,
amplification is prohibited. It was also suggested that certain locations where
this activity is appropriate could be deemed “busker stations”, to prevent
businesses from being interrupted. The buskers would be restricted from city
parks.
There would be a charge for the license and they would carry this license with
them at all times. This would encourage a higher standard of street performers.
Our goal is to advertise and promote this program in an informal way at this time.
Discussions took place regarding difference of panhandling and buskers. We
will see a great variety of entertainers.
*** There were not enough people for quorum at this time to make a formal
motion, so an informal motion was put for that staff investigate and prepare a
draft by-law for DAC and Council’s consideration.
5. CHESS TABLES – Catherine Heal
Catherine Heal was happy to report that Council has approved the chess table
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program. Tables have been ordered and are coming around Aug. 11. They
are very heavy, weighing approximately 700 lbs and will be bolted to the ground,
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which would make them hard to move and tip over. K-W Chess Club is
supporting this greatly, and are very enthusiastic about the whole program. This
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past Monday (July 10), the Chess Club started a casual program, bringing in on
a regular basis, chess players which will provide the visual image for the public
that people will play chess and also to encourage others to come down
spontaneously and play. Monday’s turn out was very positive, members from
the Rockway Senior Centre Chess Club came down to play and we got lots of
participation from the general public, joining in and playing, etc. Eight tables
have been ordered and 4 tables will be placed on each side of city hall, under the
overhang. People who want to learn how to play or want to play on a more
regular basis will benefit from this, as well, we want for establish an informal
relationship with the school chess clubs and have them come down and play.
Doug Hoch made the suggestion to concentrate all the tables on the one side of
city hall, to try to create a “community” feeling. For the next 3 Sundays in July
the Chess Club will be coming down to play and encourage others to join in.
6. UP-DATE BY DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT TEAM (City and KDBA)
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Tim Fox reported that the Theatre & Co. deal has closed, they own the
property and can move ahead and start construction on their new location.
They were recently given the “boot” from Manulife at their King Centre
location, and are now moving to their temporary location at Market Square.
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Ziggy’s Cycle is closing their purchase in July, and hopes to open in
September. Minor adjustments need to be made to the parkette next to
property and the City will take over maintenance of this.
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Forsyth will be closing shortly, city has started marking parking spaces. This
is a joint effort with Circa Development and the City to provide more parking
in the downtown.
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With the great success of 72 Victoria St. S. converted to the warehouse
district, it was felt that more developments on the way. It is very encouraging
to see this area being redeveloped.
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The Epton site is looking better, and also encourages development in the
warehouse district.
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The Downtown Development Team has obtained permission to put flowerpots
in the Eby St./Market Village area. This will most likely happen next year,
and money has been set aside to do this.
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Morning Glory Bakery has opened in the East End and had a very successful
opening. They are open during daytime hours, and in the evenings they are
closed and can be used for a meeting place.
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A Residential Developers Package will be here in September. It has been a
long process and has been put together to encourage additional residential
units in the downtown and area. The Forsyth deal has been a key factor in
developing this package.
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Movie cameras are in the downtown area! A low budget Canadian film is
being shot by Man Dancing Productions who have received a grant from the
government to produce 4 short films and 1 feature film. Watch out for them!
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Molly Green reported that Cruise Night is coming up on July 14 with cars
being displayed from Eby to Francis Streets. Approximately 250 cars are
expected.
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Fleece vests, coming in a variety of colours, with the Original City logo are
available for $40, the KDBA are taking orders.
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Mural program is underway and will be displayed on the Market Square
building on the Scott St. side. We should start to see some painting by the
end of Aug.
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New businesses that have opened and moved around in downtown are
mentioned in Block Talk, copies available at the KDBA.
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Hoarding painting along King St. has been done!
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The Teddy Bear’s picnic was a great success!
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The temporary location for the Health Centre will be at 59 Frederick St., the
corner of Duke & Frederick.
7. NEIGHBOURHOOD ASSOC. UP-DATE
Mill-CourtlandThere is a 3 on 3 basketball tourney at the community
centre.
Victoria Park Cinema under the stars is coming – see attached.
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8. HOMELESSNESS UP-DATE
See the attached forum report. Trudy Beaulne asked if this topic could be put
on agenda for the September meeting. She suggested we could discuss where
we fit in and what we could contribute. Trudy encouraged DAC members to look
at this report and if there was something of interest to any of the members, we
should then get involved and contact Trudy.
9 NEW BUSINESS
“All Ages Dance Parties” at the Lyric – Anita Petsche-Good asked if council could
investigate these types of activities. She expressed that some retailers have
concerns of property damage, the conduct of the people attending these events,
weapons, etc. and the police involvement. She mentioned that these types of
events are not good for the downtown’s reputation. As a committee, we should
suggest council do an investigation into this incident and hope that it doesn’t
happen again.
Molly Green reported that the Alcohol & Gaming Commission are looking very
closely into this.
Tim Fox said that it would be more appropriate for council to send some sort of
notice to the MPPs and Premiere’s office regarding these types of activities, i.e.
rave scene, all ages dances. Tim also mentioned that the Entertainment
Committee meetings could discuss this issue and make suggestions.
Tim will help set up a smaller meeting with concerned DAC members to deal with
this type of problem and will contact them of this meeting.
A motion was made to adjourn the meeting.
Moved by:Tom Brennand
Seconded by:Ruth Tomlinson
CARRIED
LIST OF ATTACHMENTS
1. Project 2007 – Report of the Uptown Vision Committee
2. Uptown Waterloo survey
3. KDBA memo – Licensing of Street Musicians in Downtown Kitchener
4. Cinema Under the Stars
5. Opening Doors Homelessness report
6. “Nightclubs Bear Responsibility” newspaper article
7. Suspension of Liquor License of Metropolis letter
8. Downtown Idea Exchange
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